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On November 29 2010 19:29 necmon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2010 19:26 Scruff wrote: What a joke pulling SCV is way too powerful nobody hinders you doing that as zerg or protoss as well. You are basically destroying your own economy with it. It's an all-in move, nothing else.
Except if you screw up as terran you can just throw down some mules and your back in it, not for toss and zerg.
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On November 29 2010 19:29 necmon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2010 19:26 Scruff wrote: What a joke pulling SCV is way too powerful nobody hinders you doing that as zerg or protoss as well. You are basically destroying your own economy with it. It's an all-in move, nothing else.
Are you joking? Last I checked Zerg and Toss couldn't mule.
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That was terribly lame. Offensive SCVs 3 times in 2 games. Considering how often you see that in GSL, something has to be done about it. It just doesn't make for entertaining games.
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
THAT newbie is in ro16... going to be eaten alive by fruitdealer/sc2fou
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On November 29 2010 19:29 Qikz wrote: People complain about SCV all ins, but can't other races do it too? Zerg just didn't defend well enough. He'd of won if he'd defended properly.
Exactly, he could have moved his 3 spinecrawlers and pulled drones instantly instead of just defending with army and pulling drones after his army died.
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no excuse for zerg. he scouted everything and didn't use his info correctly. should've moved those crawlers way earlier
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Beyonder
Netherlands15103 Posts
On November 29 2010 19:29 necmon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2010 19:26 Scruff wrote: What a joke pulling SCV is way too powerful nobody hinders you doing that as zerg or protoss as well. You are basically destroying your own economy with it. It's an all-in move, nothing else. Except that terran has MULES.
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On November 29 2010 19:27 StUfF wrote: Why don't these players learn to pull drones earlier - when you see 234234 SCVs use your drones.
Even if you pull your drones, Terran comes out ahead because of mules.
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Both players played pretty terribly, but NewDawn played worse.
I voted for him, too.. ]: oh well. I thought he was better than this..
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United Kingdom16710 Posts
You really need banelings against those all-ins. 1~2 would wipe out the SCV cannon-fodder and the rest can clean up.
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On November 29 2010 19:29 smallerk wrote: Atleast we get to see ret faster Haha, that's actually a good point :D
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Someone create recommended game polls so I can add them to the OP (I think I know what the voting result will be for these games though =/).
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Newdawn played very stupid.
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If I had been in the studio I would've boo'd both players till they kicked me out, "I paid absolutely no money to watch this travesty!" "This is an outrage!"
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People need to blam the map instead of blame the race. The 2nd was ok, Zerg played quite bad. But the Terran allin in the first game was all because of the map. Map like Steppes will die in the near future and all we can hope is that Blizzard get their shit together to make us some better map.
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On November 29 2010 19:29 necmon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2010 19:26 Scruff wrote: What a joke pulling SCV is way too powerful nobody hinders you doing that as zerg or protoss as well. You are basically destroying your own economy with it. It's an all-in move, nothing else.
Yeah, except if the zerg or protoss brings all his workers and doesnt finish the game, he doesnt have mules back at home
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On November 29 2010 19:29 necmon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2010 19:26 Scruff wrote: What a joke pulling SCV is way too powerful nobody hinders you doing that as zerg or protoss as well. You are basically destroying your own economy with it. It's an all-in move, nothing else.
thats the point: because of mules, terrans arent doing nearly as much harm to their eco by pulling 2/3rds of their scvs than zerg or toss would do. and if both players have been producing armies of equal strength, the only way to hold off such an attack plus the scvs is to pull ur own workers. now, if terrans and nonterrans trade workers, this is a good thing for the terran because of mules.
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thanks for the live text update lol, nets capped so cant watch it T_T, oh well, will just dl 720p vod's later, but still, good to know whats goin down live.
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On November 29 2010 19:28 zak wrote: lol babybit is happy for knowing how to pull scvs and doing all ins. He's probably happy for being a few thousand dollars richer..
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On November 29 2010 19:29 necmon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2010 19:26 Scruff wrote: What a joke pulling SCV is way too powerful nobody hinders you doing that as zerg or protoss as well. You are basically destroying your own economy with it. It's an all-in move, nothing else.
Completely different with the other races. Other races don't have mules, and don't have repair.
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