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Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
November 07 2010 01:04 GMT
#7221
Liquid'Tyler has a smoothing voice, he is so chill!

I am not young enough to know everything.
Pudge_172
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1378 Posts
November 07 2010 01:04 GMT
#7222
On November 07 2010 10:03 debasers wrote:
Liquid with 4 of the 8 WB's RO8

Liquid, why so good?



Shouldn't it be:


Lickkkkkkkkwiiiiiiiiidddddd why u so good? Lickkkkkkkkwiiiiiiiiidddddd.
Diablo 3 Blog Me & My Mom http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=336890
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
November 07 2010 01:04 GMT
#7223
On November 07 2010 10:02 seiferoth10 wrote:
Sigh, and I thought the metagame was shifting toward longer games with the bunker/depot/reaper change, but I guess it's actually flipped on it's head and early all ins are being favored even more than before the patch.

people all-in against idra?
must be because of supply depot before rax yeaaaah
Dingobloo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1903 Posts
November 07 2010 01:05 GMT
#7224
On November 07 2010 10:04 Jiddra wrote:
Liquid'Tyler has a smoothing voice, he is so chill!



He's just chillin' man... just chillin'
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
November 07 2010 01:05 GMT
#7225
On November 07 2010 10:02 clusen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 09:59 Sewi wrote:
how can people complain about cheese?
Serious tournament -> playing against the best player there -> being 1-1 -> map is delta with even closest positions -> take advantage of it!

Everything else would have been absolutely stupid. If there is something to blame it is either Idra going for hatch first on delta or the size of the map.
Select did everything 100% right here!! Just as Naz did before. Why should people let Idra go into macro mode if they dont have to??? Do you think they are there to provide you with 30 minute games? NO. They want to win this whole thing!

I dunno why people complain, I personally find cheese sometimes really interesting to watch, it makes some intense games.

Select played better over the whole Bo3 imo(he could've won g2 without that one faildrop), but fanboys will always find something to complain.

Sewi's right, Select should take advantage of his advantage. It's just like last night between Stork and Jaedong + Show Spoiler +
January made the right decision to send out Stork on the heavily imba towards Protoss map, and Stork read the metagame correctly to think Jaedong would go hatch first since Protoss can get a big economy so easily on the map, so Stork went with the old-school version of 4 warp gate rush and Jaedong didn't fare too much better that Idra.
Minx_x
Profile Joined November 2010
Turkey68 Posts
November 07 2010 01:05 GMT
#7226
cliiiiiiiiiiiideeeeeee why u so goooooooooooood?
Sea[Shield] hwaiting~~
ironchef
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Canada1350 Posts
November 07 2010 01:05 GMT
#7227
On November 07 2010 10:04 Carnac wrote:
it would be boring if no one ever cheesed and everyone went for the long game all the time. the variety cheese brings to the game is needed for many reasons.


Exactly. I can see why its frustrating to lose to it while laddering (ie learning, bo1 etc). But nonstandard games are awesome in series.
“Because your own strength is unequal to the task, do not assume that it is beyond the powers of man; but if anything is within the powers and province of man, believe that it is within your own compass also.” - Marcus Aurelius
Forak
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands64 Posts
November 07 2010 01:05 GMT
#7228
Really really shitty way to get eliminated for Idra, The abusive blink stalker play on Kula's getting him in the loser bracket in the first place.. there is a reason that map has been deleted from the map pool.
And then Select showing he can't win straight up abusing free bunkers and marine spam, sigh.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
November 07 2010 01:05 GMT
#7229
On November 07 2010 10:05 Dingobloo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 10:04 Jiddra wrote:
Liquid'Tyler has a smoothing voice, he is so chill!



He's just chillin' man... just chillin'

Then he got hungry.
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
November 07 2010 01:05 GMT
#7230
On November 07 2010 09:59 TomSlick wrote:
Its a shame Idra doesn't play better so he wont die to cheeses!

Tbh idra is awesome against cheese, just got a bit to confident after that 2nd game or something, opening FE on DQ against select, which is very aggressive bio player... Quite risky to say the least.
TheGrimace
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States929 Posts
November 07 2010 01:05 GMT
#7231
On November 07 2010 10:02 seiferoth10 wrote:
Sigh, and I thought the metagame was shifting toward longer games with the bunker/depot/reaper change, but I guess it's actually flipped on it's head and early all ins are being favored even more than before the patch.


I think the issue is a lot of people have become comfortable with what is possible and they forget that being greedy can still get you killed. Slowing down the rax doesn't stop heavy rax play. IdrA assumed he could get a FE every game, and that's simply not the case. Early all ins are only strong if you don't account for them in your strategy.
Eminent Rising
Profile Joined October 2010
United States174 Posts
November 07 2010 01:05 GMT
#7232
On November 07 2010 10:01 Indel wrote:
Starcraft 2 north american tournaments are the peak of dissapointment. Only a few good games and the rest is cheese or all in that could be done by plat level players. Rubbish.

because the koreans dont cheese.

oh wait...
Momento Mori
DDKz
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia188 Posts
November 07 2010 01:05 GMT
#7233
On November 07 2010 09:56 red_b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 09:54 Doraemon.doraemon wrote:
i'm an IdrA fan ... now gotta find some new zerg hero to root for


fairweather fan much?

sometimes the guy you cheer for loses. if you jump ship because he's losing you suck as a fan.

if it turns out the guy you cheer for does something really bad then sure. but losing? I mean more like your guy turns out to be rigging matches or is a racist or something.


pretty sure he meant he has to find a zerg left in the tournament to root for not overall favourite player, but way to overeact there champ.

also people should stop complaining about that game, SeleCT is an amazing player and that "cheese" was the best way to avoid IdrA overrunning him later in the game which will inevitably happen when youre a terran vs such an amazing zerg. I feel bad that IdrA is out but I'm glad SeleCT is still in it because he's always fun to watch.
Burn2Memory
Profile Joined August 2010
United States574 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-07 01:06:06
November 07 2010 01:05 GMT
#7234
Yo tyler your one of the best protoss in north america.

How do you feel about Zerg v Zerg?!?


lol
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
November 07 2010 01:05 GMT
#7235
On November 07 2010 10:04 Carnac wrote:
it would be boring if no one ever cheesed and everyone went for the long game all the time. the variety cheese brings to the game is needed for many reasons.


excatly, upsets/re-matches like we just saw are awesome in tournaments
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
JoeSchmoe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2058 Posts
November 07 2010 01:05 GMT
#7236
people are going all-in against idra and he knows it yet he remains resilient with the zerg FE. It's his fault.
forgottendreams
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1771 Posts
November 07 2010 01:05 GMT
#7237
Now that IdrA's gone I hope for Sen, Tyler or TLO to take it.
neoenigma
Profile Joined October 2010
United States243 Posts
November 07 2010 01:05 GMT
#7238
On November 07 2010 10:02 Elwar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 10:01 neoenigma wrote:
Can someone name me a zerg cheese strategy that is actually HARD to defend at the pro level?

Two-base banelings?

Kyrix done quite well with it.

This isn't a cheese strategy. I'm talking about something Idra can do to force Select to play defensively THAT early in the match. That way you really can say that Select outplayed Idra. Idra could have used his own cheese. But I dont think Zerg can walk up into a Terran or Protoss base and deny them the only thing that makes them strong.
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
November 07 2010 01:06 GMT
#7239
On November 07 2010 10:04 Carnac wrote:
it would be boring if no one ever cheesed and everyone went for the long game all the time. the variety cheese brings to the game is needed for many reasons.

and that aside, some people really call everything cheese

i love a well-executed cheese, and I agree that it makes the game more interesting
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
BadFurDay
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia12 Posts
November 07 2010 01:06 GMT
#7240
On November 07 2010 10:02 Elwar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 10:01 neoenigma wrote:
Can someone name me a zerg cheese strategy that is actually HARD to defend at the pro level?

Two-base banelings?

Kyrix done quite well with it.


"cheese" "Two-base banelings", does not compute.
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