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On September 28 2010 20:31 abrasion wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 20:29 Maul wrote:
All players are now guaranteed almost $9k, with 2nd getting a massive ~$26k and first getting almost $90k! Feels good man I dunno if this is the place to bring it up but I _completely_ agree with superdanielman. The prize money should've been much, much, much less and they should have many more tournaments, creating long term support for the game - this is just blowing their wad. Fairly sure Blizzard chipped in quite a bit of that 85k didn't they? How much longer will that go on for.
This is actually a pretty decent point, it's not like any of these guys wouldn't have shown up if first place was $26k. I guess if it continues for awhile there's nothing to complain about though.
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From 27 protoss to zero. Disappointing to say the least. Even more disappointing is that for GSL season 2, we seem to be getting quite a few BW terran pro's (or ex-pro's) that are staying as T.
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On September 28 2010 20:32 Number41 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 20:29 NeoLearner wrote:So, who do you think Cool practiced that 6 pool with?  On that map you know they will tech, so you can steal gas to slow their tech or just take a gamble...
Do you, like, read the posts you answer? Or what?
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On September 28 2010 20:24 Shakes wrote:
Was that one game out of nine where we actually saw both sides get an expansion up?
sc2 the game of gimmicky play and allins.
days like this one are the reason why im not too exited about gsl anymore. the normal sc2 game just isnt "exciting".
yeah the games that actually go on for a longer time can be amazing but thats such a small part. right now even tho i always laughed at wc3 and only played it like once a year i have to say that even wc3 produces way more entertaining games to watch.longer,more backnforth,people can actually show some of their skill to the viewers...
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On September 28 2010 20:32 Lann555 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 20:32 Dommk wrote:
All this "Protoss > Terran lategame" talk seems bullocks to me. I've yet to see a single game where Protoss crushes Terran lategame, all the games that have gone past midgame have been down to the wire, no one side looked to have any sort of over bearing advantage, but early game however... Watch Tester in the RO16 
Care to show a game? Most of Testers earlier games were just Tester crushing faces because he is that much better than his opponents that and his Terran opponents bringing half their SVC line with them to every attack, but the vast majority of other PvT's have been very even late game.
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On September 28 2010 20:31 lorgoth wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 20:30 Zrah wrote:
Protos needs warpgate buff to cut it down back to 60s. Since protoss has no defense and close to 0 production until warpgate gets done. Yea but it will make 4G against Z to powerfull so its not good idea.
Sure close position on Meta and Steppes with the short rush distances are the best maps to balance early rushes.... This is not a problem to be fixed by a balance patch but by better maps.
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The last three pages are nothing but people whining about balance. I guess they games just weren't interesting enough. I hope the semi's are much much better.
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On September 28 2010 20:32 Dommk wrote:
All this "Protoss > Terran lategame" talk seems bullocks to me. I've yet to see a single game where Protoss crushes Terran lategame, all the games that have gone past midgame have been down to the wire, no one side looked to have any sort of over bearing advantage, but early game however...
Watch NEXGENIUS vs ENSARE.
There are like 8 games, score was somewhat 7:1 for genuis, most of them went to lategame.
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On September 28 2010 20:33 Hrrrrm wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 20:26 Cel.erity wrote:
Man...this was the worst day of play since the Ro64. Plus, all 3 protoss losing. Oh well, I will be rooting for Cool, and I'm still really psyched for season two. It's crunch time and players see REAL money to be made. The difference between Ro8($3,400) and Ro4($8,600 for 3rd-4th, 2nd $25,700 and 1st $85,000) is huge. I would not be surprised if we see the cheesiest builds from here on out. Each race is going to be exploited to it's fullest capacity in the semi's and finals. Whatever has the highest percentage of winning is going to be used. You play to win the game!
Word.Stakes are getting higer and higer, they WILL do EVERYTHING they can to maximise their chance at winning, no mather how lame/cheese or however you call it.
At the end of the day, all that mathers is $.
Anyhow, can't wait to see Cool in semies
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On September 28 2010 20:34 Dommk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 20:32 Lann555 wrote:On September 28 2010 20:32 Dommk wrote:
All this "Protoss > Terran lategame" talk seems bullocks to me. I've yet to see a single game where Protoss crushes Terran lategame, all the games that have gone past midgame have been down to the wire, no one side looked to have any sort of over bearing advantage, but early game however... Watch Tester in the RO16 Care to show a game? Most of Testers earlier games were just Tester crushing faces because he is that much better than his opponents, but the vast majority of other PvT's have been very even late game.
Game 2 against Hyperdub.
Mind you, Game 1 against ITR could have been the same if he actually killed off ITR's forces when they arrived at his base, instead of forcefielding incorrectly and letting them get away.
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Fantastic night, the stream was full and the games were boring. Another Terran infested semi-final, I'm rooting for cool but I wont be watching because I don't care enough to bother watching SC2 anymore.
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On September 28 2010 20:34 DminusTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 20:31 abrasion wrote:On September 28 2010 20:29 Maul wrote:
All players are now guaranteed almost $9k, with 2nd getting a massive ~$26k and first getting almost $90k! Feels good man I dunno if this is the place to bring it up but I _completely_ agree with superdanielman. The prize money should've been much, much, much less and they should have many more tournaments, creating long term support for the game - this is just blowing their wad. Fairly sure Blizzard chipped in quite a bit of that 85k didn't they? How much longer will that go on for. This is actually a pretty decent point, it's not like any of these guys wouldn't have shown up if first place was $26k. I guess if it continues for awhile there's nothing to complain about though.
It's pissing away the budget, how long can they keep this up for? Isn't it nearly 200k being given away in this event (or something, including all the other place $$$?)
It's so wasteful when all those players would've turned up for 1/3 of that money but they still could have milked 3x longer out of the cash.
Hope WoW is subsidising it.
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On September 28 2010 20:32 Number41 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 20:29 NeoLearner wrote:So, who do you think Cool practiced that 6 pool with? On that map you know they will tech, so you can steal gas to slow their tech or just take a gamble...
Agreed.
I'm just curious who he practiced it with. He'll surely have tried it a few times to see how it fares after the patch. Tester was probably quite busy training against Gas or Clide...
Or maybe the 6 pool was something he got out of his system @ OGS against Inca.
Was just wondering... I imagine if he tried it against Tester the in-cheeseable and it worked, he would've been very confident trying it at the GSL
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On September 28 2010 20:34 TheRabidDeer wrote:
From 27 protoss to zero. Disappointing to say the least. Even more disappointing is that for GSL season 2, we seem to be getting quite a few BW terran pro's (or ex-pro's) that are staying as T.
I think it's awesome news, it means I get to save 20$ a month on paying to watch.
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On September 28 2010 20:35 Elefanto wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 20:32 Dommk wrote:
All this "Protoss > Terran lategame" talk seems bullocks to me. I've yet to see a single game where Protoss crushes Terran lategame, all the games that have gone past midgame have been down to the wire, no one side looked to have any sort of over bearing advantage, but early game however... Watch NEXGENIUS vs ENSARE. There are like 8 games, score was somewhat 7:1 for genuis, most of them went to lategame.
This, it's quite painfull.
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On September 28 2010 20:34 DminusTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 20:31 abrasion wrote:On September 28 2010 20:29 Maul wrote:
All players are now guaranteed almost $9k, with 2nd getting a massive ~$26k and first getting almost $90k! Feels good man I dunno if this is the place to bring it up but I _completely_ agree with superdanielman. The prize money should've been much, much, much less and they should have many more tournaments, creating long term support for the game - this is just blowing their wad. Fairly sure Blizzard chipped in quite a bit of that 85k didn't they? How much longer will that go on for. This is actually a pretty decent point, it's not like any of these guys wouldn't have shown up if first place was $26k. I guess if it continues for awhile there's nothing to complain about though.
They're running a tournament a month all 2011, with 2 or 3 more to go this year. I'd like to see the money spread out a bit better, but there's no reason to payout less if it's sustainable.
Some game 2 and 3s have over 11k views which is over $200k, so pretending the bandwidth costs to stream are free then they've covered the prize pool that way alone.
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After today matches seems that the best Cool can do is second place. ATM imho its imposible for Z to beat ITR.
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On September 28 2010 20:31 abrasion wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 20:29 Maul wrote:
All players are now guaranteed almost $9k, with 2nd getting a massive ~$26k and first getting almost $90k! Feels good man I dunno if this is the place to bring it up but I _completely_ agree with superdanielman. The prize money should've been much, much, much less and they should have many more tournaments, creating long term support for the game - this is just blowing their wad. Fairly sure Blizzard chipped in quite a bit of that 85k didn't they? How much longer will that go on for.
All the money that Blizzard is putting in for these tournaments aren't even a drop in the bucket in the grand scheme of things. I would liken it to more of tiny molecules from the evaporated water from the bucket. I don't see the prize money going down considerably any time soon especially since they already confirmed basically the same amount for monthly tournaments all of next year.
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This is so win. Let's pray it will be like that.
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On September 28 2010 20:37 Maul wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 20:34 DminusTerran wrote:On September 28 2010 20:31 abrasion wrote:On September 28 2010 20:29 Maul wrote:
All players are now guaranteed almost $9k, with 2nd getting a massive ~$26k and first getting almost $90k! Feels good man I dunno if this is the place to bring it up but I _completely_ agree with superdanielman. The prize money should've been much, much, much less and they should have many more tournaments, creating long term support for the game - this is just blowing their wad. Fairly sure Blizzard chipped in quite a bit of that 85k didn't they? How much longer will that go on for. This is actually a pretty decent point, it's not like any of these guys wouldn't have shown up if first place was $26k. I guess if it continues for awhile there's nothing to complain about though. They're running a tournament a month all 2011, with 2 or 3 more to go this year. I'd like to see the money spread out a bit better, but there's no reason to payout less if it's sustainable. Some game 2 and 3s have over 11k views which is over $200k, so pretending the bandwidth costs to stream are free then they've covered the prize pool that way alone.
You need to remember some people will watch the same vods several times so expect those games to be at 3-4k unique views which is still huge but way less than it really shows.
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