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Immersion_
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom794 Posts
September 24 2010 16:07 GMT
#1641
Just started watching the VODs, OMG is that infected mushroom playing in the build up :D:D:D
http://www.twitch.tv/sybar1te Sybarite#2581 - add me for Heroes games. .Play Hots and Overwatch currently. Feel free to add.
Punkstar
Profile Joined July 2010
Slovakia522 Posts
September 24 2010 16:08 GMT
#1642
On September 25 2010 00:44 Kraz.Del wrote:
15 ULTRALISKS!!!!! I rofled hard.

just watched it, I literally froze with meal half way to my mouth. WTF?
When in doubt, just drone up.
Cheps
Profile Joined August 2010
United Arab Emirates197 Posts
September 24 2010 16:13 GMT
#1643
oh my god cool is such a master of macrooooooooooooooo

he knew that top was gonna play double expo and thus he collected a MASSIVE amount of gas so that right when he had hive tech he could make a 200/200 army of ultras. GOD what a beast
DminusTerran
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1337 Posts
September 24 2010 16:16 GMT
#1644
On September 24 2010 20:04 Cynry wrote:
Cool had 2 roach warren and 2 banelings nest in the first game. Just sayin'


Helps when you're getting both roach ups at the same time and don't want lose your baneling production capability to 1 dropship.
SlothOnPCP
Profile Joined August 2010
193 Posts
September 24 2010 16:18 GMT
#1645
On September 25 2010 01:16 DminusTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2010 20:04 Cynry wrote:
Cool had 2 roach warren and 2 banelings nest in the first game. Just sayin'


Helps when you're getting both roach ups at the same time and don't want lose your baneling production capability to 1 dropship.

he just panicked. artosis asked about in the interview.
"I think SlothOnPCP is a pretty cool guy. eh kills noobs and doesn’t afraid of anything…"
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-24 16:22:47
September 24 2010 16:18 GMT
#1646
Reviewing the first major ultra vs thor battle in game 3:

Top completely mis-microed that battle. He had 15 thors vs 10 ultras - of which only 9 ultras made it to the battle, of which only 5 were attacking initially. Cool throws his lings, roachs, and banelings at the thors from the top, so the thors started attacking those small units while the first 5 ultras made their way into the thors and started hitting on the thors. It wasn't until the first layer of thors were at half life before Top decided to attack the ultras. At this point, due to how the splash works with the ultras, basically 10 of the 15 thors were at half life, and the remaining 4 ultras came down to finish the job. Cool ends up with 6 ultras after that battle.

Ultra upgrades - 4 armor, 1 attack (chitinous plating adds the +2 armor)
Thors upgrades - (looks like) 2 armor, 2 attack

So honestly, Top really messed up that fight. He went against a slightly lesser ultralisk army on their creep, in a tight ball that would just exacerbate the strength of ultra splash, and he decided to shoot at the 20 or more zerglings attacking him from the top side. If not for that, he may have evened out the ultra numbers there, because the moment the thors were attacking the ultras, like 3 of them died instantly.
Yargh
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
September 24 2010 16:24 GMT
#1647
Cool is a beast. I hope he gets to semi's.
Life is Good.
DminusTerran
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1337 Posts
September 24 2010 16:24 GMT
#1648
On September 25 2010 01:18 SlothOnPCP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2010 01:16 DminusTerran wrote:
On September 24 2010 20:04 Cynry wrote:
Cool had 2 roach warren and 2 banelings nest in the first game. Just sayin'


Helps when you're getting both roach ups at the same time and don't want lose your baneling production capability to 1 dropship.

he just panicked. artosis asked about in the interview.


Hmm thought that was about the third game.
DminusTerran
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1337 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-24 16:39:32
September 24 2010 16:29 GMT
#1649
On September 25 2010 01:18 JinDesu wrote:
Reviewing the first major ultra vs thor battle in game 3:

Top completely mis-microed that battle. He had 15 thors vs 10 ultras - of which only 9 ultras made it to the battle, of which only 5 were attacking initially. Cool throws his lings, roachs, and banelings at the thors from the top, so the thors started attacking those small units while the first 5 ultras made their way into the thors and started hitting on the thors. It wasn't until the first layer of thors were at half life before Top decided to attack the ultras. At this point, due to how the splash works with the ultras, basically 10 of the 15 thors were at half life, and the remaining 4 ultras came down to finish the job. Cool ends up with 6 ultras after that battle.

Ultra upgrades - 4 armor, 1 attack (chitinous plating adds the +2 armor)
Thors upgrades - (looks like) 2 armor, 2 attack

So honestly, Top really messed up that fight. He went against a slightly lesser ultralisk army on their creep, in a tight ball that would just exacerbate the strength of ultra splash, and he decided to shoot at the 20 or more zerglings attacking him from the top side. If not for that, he may have evened out the ultra numbers there, because the moment the thors were attacking the ultras, like 3 of them died instantly.


Kulas has pretty tight chokes it's not really easy to spread your Thors out when you're the one attacking. I'm not sure he new ultras would be out right then so he was already pinned in from the top by ling/roach. When you're fighting zerglings you have to keep your thors tight together to prevent surround. Even had he specifically just targeted the ultras he was in a terrible position though I think he would've lost that army either way, you're probably right to suggest he could have done better with it. I'm not sure it would've pulled off the game for him though pure thor is pretty :\.
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
September 24 2010 16:54 GMT
#1650
On September 25 2010 01:29 DminusTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2010 01:18 JinDesu wrote:
Reviewing the first major ultra vs thor battle in game 3:

Top completely mis-microed that battle. He had 15 thors vs 10 ultras - of which only 9 ultras made it to the battle, of which only 5 were attacking initially. Cool throws his lings, roachs, and banelings at the thors from the top, so the thors started attacking those small units while the first 5 ultras made their way into the thors and started hitting on the thors. It wasn't until the first layer of thors were at half life before Top decided to attack the ultras. At this point, due to how the splash works with the ultras, basically 10 of the 15 thors were at half life, and the remaining 4 ultras came down to finish the job. Cool ends up with 6 ultras after that battle.

Ultra upgrades - 4 armor, 1 attack (chitinous plating adds the +2 armor)
Thors upgrades - (looks like) 2 armor, 2 attack

So honestly, Top really messed up that fight. He went against a slightly lesser ultralisk army on their creep, in a tight ball that would just exacerbate the strength of ultra splash, and he decided to shoot at the 20 or more zerglings attacking him from the top side. If not for that, he may have evened out the ultra numbers there, because the moment the thors were attacking the ultras, like 3 of them died instantly.


Kulas has pretty tight chokes it's not really easy to spread your Thors out when you're the one attacking. I'm not sure he new ultras would be out right then so he was already pinned in from the top by ling/roach. When you're fighting zerglings you have to keep your thors tight together to prevent surround. Even had he specifically just targeted the ultras he was in a terrible position though I think he would've lost that army either way, you're probably right to suggest he could have done better with it. I'm not sure it would've pulled off the game for him though pure thor is pretty :\.


Yeah, I'm not saying he would have won that battle or the game, but evening out a few more ultras could have cascaded it. It was just a bad attack on his part and a good defense on Cool's part to use the smaller more numerous units to distract the thors.
Yargh
epicopter
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada177 Posts
September 24 2010 17:03 GMT
#1651
Did the Ultralisk bug this patch win Cool the matches? I mean he won both of them with the Ultras and the bug was pretty evident.

I don't want to take anything away from Cool I know hes a great player and it still would have been close even without the bug but it seemed to just be that much more effective.
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
September 24 2010 17:06 GMT
#1652
On September 25 2010 02:03 epicopter wrote:
Did the Ultralisk bug this patch win Cool the matches? I mean he won both of them with the Ultras and the bug was pretty evident.

I don't want to take anything away from Cool I know hes a great player and it still would have been close even without the bug but it seemed to just be that much more effective.


If by bug, you mean the splash damage on the units? That's what won him the game. The splash damage on the planetary fortress was an afterthought when he had the game in the bag.
Yargh
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
September 24 2010 17:34 GMT
#1653
Again, the bug does NOT effect units ppl, so stop saying that the bug won the game for him...
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
September 24 2010 17:39 GMT
#1654
What TOP really should've done is had hellions for meat for the thors if he wanted to just do a 200/200 mech doom push. Hellions being light units take like 5 hits to kill even from a +1 ultralisk, and they also roast zerglings that flank esp if they have blue flame. Or... he could've just attacked at any point in the 20 mins before he did and just sacc'd some of his buildings to the drop and lifted off.
Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
September 24 2010 17:44 GMT
#1655
On September 25 2010 02:34 Assirra wrote:
Again, the bug does NOT effect units ppl, so stop saying that the bug won the game for him...

Wouldn't be a problem if people stopped assuming the ultra splash on buildings is a bug, and not an oversight.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
September 24 2010 17:58 GMT
#1656
On September 25 2010 02:44 Fa1nT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2010 02:34 Assirra wrote:
Again, the bug does NOT effect units ppl, so stop saying that the bug won the game for him...

Wouldn't be a problem if people stopped assuming the ultra splash on buildings is a bug, and not an oversight.

it IS a bug tough, it got confirmed by blizzard
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/628240550
Ultralisk AoE cleave is inappropriately affecting structures.
It only saids structures so units are still as intended.
positron.
Profile Joined May 2010
634 Posts
September 24 2010 18:12 GMT
#1657
Wait so that stupid splash damage from ultra does not happen on units? Can anyone confirm this?
Vandro
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands384 Posts
September 24 2010 18:16 GMT
#1658
Just watched all games from Maka, Cool and Inca and WOW, the games got a LOT better in Ro16!
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
September 24 2010 18:19 GMT
#1659
On September 25 2010 03:12 positron. wrote:
Wait so that stupid splash damage from ultra does not happen on units? Can anyone confirm this?


No, it does occur on units. It's unit being attacked +2 range around that unit. However, this has been the case since a long time ago.
Yargh
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-24 18:28:10
September 24 2010 18:25 GMT
#1660
On September 24 2010 23:42 JunkkaGom wrote:
That was some game today. It was fun to watch.

Maka said that confidence does not come from outside but from inside, but every time I translate interview with guys like Cool I can actually feel their confidence from them radiating into me, and it helps me relax in front of camera.

Although I am still afraid when interviewing zerg player cuz questions might mention some zerg vocab whcih I am not confident with, I personally think zerg games are so much more fun to watch.



Great job on the translations! Though I'm curious how much English Cool actually knows...

EDIT: Really, Terrans? The bug DID NOT "win the game" for Cool...actually, TOP smartly moved his SCVs out of the PF range every time. Take a page out of his book.
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