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Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
September 24 2010 11:23 GMT
#1261
By the way, did you guys see how the ultras taking out the northern expansion also destroyed two turrets in the mineral line? Their splash looks so funny and counter-intuitive.
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
September 24 2010 11:23 GMT
#1262
Game1 and 3 of Cools series were my absolutly GSL highlights. those drops did save his ass - cuz it bought the time he needed to pump out the ultras. just loved it. hope he goes to the finals!
keep it deep! @zulison
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
September 24 2010 11:23 GMT
#1263
SanZenith about to get owned by Inca.
9/5/10 P acct: NA D 10,683 651pts 69w56L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/290365/LetoAtreides T acct: NA D 16,137 553pts 70w67L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/1560008/Khrone Z: NA G 16,058 465pts 28w26L http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1997354/Omnius
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
September 24 2010 11:23 GMT
#1264
On September 24 2010 20:22 Fa1nT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2010 20:19 Shikyo wrote:
"What was the purpose of the double Roach Warren" Seriously, the guy played one of the best ZvTs ever, do you have to be an asshole?

Modded for saying this or not, he would not have won that against any other terran.

TOP messed up so hard that it almost looked fake.



You know what being nervous is?
SC2Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2814 Posts
September 24 2010 11:24 GMT
#1265
On September 24 2010 20:16 Powster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2010 20:14 JinDesu wrote:
On September 24 2010 20:14 Powster wrote:
Top was paid to lose probably..


wtf is with these posts.... YOU aren't playing the goddamn game, how do you know what's running through Top's mind to not push!?


Top killed loads of drones.. then he decides to double expand and do no agression against a zerg.. Anyone knows if you leave a zerg alone hes going to macro up.. he had that game 100% if he just was super agressive with tanks and marauders/marines or something after doing all that damage. I think there are 1000 point terrans who couldve won in that position..
Pretty much. It was more of TOP throwing the game away than awesom play by Cool.
Who the fuck has a family of fucking trees? This song is so god damn stupid. Fuck you song, fuck you and your stupid trees. -itmeJP
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
September 24 2010 11:24 GMT
#1266
On September 24 2010 20:22 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2010 20:11 Latham wrote:
On September 24 2010 20:10 dcemuser wrote:
On September 24 2010 20:09 CubEdIn wrote:
On September 24 2010 20:08 Grettin wrote:
On September 24 2010 20:07 CubEdIn wrote:
I disagree. Thors will rape ultras easily. Especially with cannons.


Really? ur seriously clueless. :D


God job COOL!


Not really, Top had enough thors to stun ALL ultras, but I guess he didn't have enough time or didn't have the upgrade.


The stun doesn't work on Ultras, dude.

Ultralisks are immune to 250mm cannons.

That change was months ago.


No. They are immune to the stun from the attack. They still take the 500 dmg up the ass from the attack.

They take 499 dmg, leaving the Ultra at 1 hp. There's a 2sec startup and 2sec cooldown after the attack. Even if he had 250MMd 6 different ulras, he wouldn't have killed any. At best they'd be at 1hp, he couldn't finish them off.


That's what the hellions are for, and he always had hellions (even if it was only a few).
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42414 Posts
September 24 2010 11:24 GMT
#1267
This Zenith guy reminds me of Hiya. :D
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
kmkkmk
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany418 Posts
September 24 2010 11:24 GMT
#1268
On September 24 2010 20:16 Sigmur wrote:
Lategame zerg is imba. Best games of today 4sure.

Sure its imba if you send carriers versus zealords or banshees versus battlecruisers or thors versus ultras.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 24 2010 11:24 GMT
#1269
On September 24 2010 20:20 Wunder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2010 20:19 Shikyo wrote:
"What was the purpose of the double Roach Warren" Seriously, the guy played one of the best ZvTs ever, do you have to be an asshole?

He's given the questions, it's not Artosis' fault.

Wasn't saying it was his, more like the GOM person's
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
September 24 2010 11:24 GMT
#1270
On September 24 2010 20:24 Sandster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2010 20:22 Shikyo wrote:
On September 24 2010 20:11 Latham wrote:
On September 24 2010 20:10 dcemuser wrote:
On September 24 2010 20:09 CubEdIn wrote:
On September 24 2010 20:08 Grettin wrote:
On September 24 2010 20:07 CubEdIn wrote:
I disagree. Thors will rape ultras easily. Especially with cannons.


Really? ur seriously clueless. :D


God job COOL!


Not really, Top had enough thors to stun ALL ultras, but I guess he didn't have enough time or didn't have the upgrade.


The stun doesn't work on Ultras, dude.

Ultralisks are immune to 250mm cannons.

That change was months ago.


No. They are immune to the stun from the attack. They still take the 500 dmg up the ass from the attack.

They take 499 dmg, leaving the Ultra at 1 hp. There's a 2sec startup and 2sec cooldown after the attack. Even if he had 250MMd 6 different ulras, he wouldn't have killed any. At best they'd be at 1hp, he couldn't finish them off.


That's what the hellions are for, and he always had hellions (even if it was only a few).


You mean the hellions that would die in the first 3 attacks of splash by the ultras
Yargh
Astromonkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United States111 Posts
September 24 2010 11:24 GMT
#1271
On September 24 2010 20:23 Woony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2010 20:22 Fa1nT wrote:
On September 24 2010 20:19 Shikyo wrote:
"What was the purpose of the double Roach Warren" Seriously, the guy played one of the best ZvTs ever, do you have to be an asshole?

Modded for saying this or not, he would not have won that against any other terran.

TOP messed up so hard that it almost looked fake.



You know what being nervous is?

Seriously. Try playing for $85k sometime, see how it makes you feel lol.
Ramble
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden877 Posts
September 24 2010 11:24 GMT
#1272
I really have to give it to Tasteless, he finds spots to say EG everywhere. He's like a ninja.
NEcropath
Profile Joined August 2010
United States223 Posts
September 24 2010 11:24 GMT
#1273
On September 24 2010 20:21 klauz619 wrote:
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On September 24 2010 20:19 NEcropath wrote:
Would everyone stop trying to play down Cool's win and enjoy the fact that we all just saw what might turn out to be the most memorable game of GSL Season 1?



The terran played like a buffoon, crippling zerg then doing nothing but make thors, then get smashed by a zerg hat has 2x the economy and unlimited ultras, which his first wave already could wipe out the entire map.

It looked like the Terran build was early harass into Double Expand into Thor Mech push, which means he was relying on being able to put the Zerg on the defensive for the entire game. He probably wasn't expecting so many drops, which put HIM on the defensive and delayed his Thor timing push, allowing the situation you describe to happen. Top was trying to take major advantage of economy and failed because he went with an immobile army and Cool took advantage.

Tell me I'm wrong?
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
September 24 2010 11:24 GMT
#1274
so, now for a protoss winning and everybody will be happy
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
cyprin
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1105 Posts
September 24 2010 11:25 GMT
#1275
hey guys tasteless is on eg
i'm not sure if you'd heard
i think idra is too.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
September 24 2010 11:25 GMT
#1276
On September 24 2010 20:15 Pulimuli wrote:
Cool is such a rascal, pretending he cant win practice games just to roflstomp all over oGsTOP in the GSL
2-1 not exactly the definition of a roflstomp match though; still nice joke. Note that both Tester and Cool are getting already serious pressure in their matches.

Maka however, is like a happy child in Disneyland so far.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13085 Posts
September 24 2010 11:25 GMT
#1277
cool is just a logia fruit he cant be killed unless he losses on purpouse
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
September 24 2010 11:26 GMT
#1278
On September 24 2010 20:24 NEcropath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2010 20:21 klauz619 wrote:
On September 24 2010 20:19 NEcropath wrote:
Would everyone stop trying to play down Cool's win and enjoy the fact that we all just saw what might turn out to be the most memorable game of GSL Season 1?



The terran played like a buffoon, crippling zerg then doing nothing but make thors, then get smashed by a zerg hat has 2x the economy and unlimited ultras, which his first wave already could wipe out the entire map.

It looked like the Terran build was early harass into Double Expand into Thor Mech push, which means he was relying on being able to put the Zerg on the defensive for the entire game. He probably wasn't expecting so many drops, which put HIM on the defensive and delayed his Thor timing push, allowing the situation you describe to happen. Top was trying to take major advantage of economy and failed because he went with an immobile army and Cool took advantage.

Tell me I'm wrong?


Thank freaking you. It's a specific strat that DIDN'T WORK ON COOL. Most other zergs would be going for all-in pushes after losing so many drones just to make up ground.
Yargh
Zozo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil2579 Posts
September 24 2010 11:26 GMT
#1279
it does 500 dmg, but ultras regen one HP. Not 499
EGM guides me
kickinhead
Profile Joined December 2008
Switzerland2069 Posts
September 24 2010 11:26 GMT
#1280
On September 24 2010 20:17 diehilde wrote:
wow how bad was that terran?? how the hell did he even get to ro16? Going for hellion/banshee harass, doing tons of dmg and then just doing NOTHING for 20 mins until z is on 5 bases and 100 ultras? Really really horrible Terran, he could have done anything and won on kulas after that opening, instead he sits back and waits for a 200/200 thor only army.. lol T_T


Indeed...

My fear is that Blizzards sees this and thinks: "well - Zerg is balanced after all!" and doesn't change anything, just cuz Cool (A player that is far beyond the skill-level of 90% of the players in the GSL) wins against a Terran who has played a few horrible Games.

I really wonder how sm1 as bad as TOP, with obviously no understanding of the TvZ-MU, can actually be the best player in one of the Top-teams out there.

I mean: Sitting back w8ing so that Zerg can drone up easily and catch 5 bases after doing that much DMG is just simply WRONG. If he had any understanding of timings and how Zerg plays out such a game, he would've just attacked much sooner.

I mean: getting Mass-Thors is good BEFORE T3 and Ultras/Broodlords get out, you can't be that oblivous and ignore that fact!

I really can't believe how bad TOP is and what a hard time Cool had, even though he plays on a whole different level than basically everyone he has faced so far.

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