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HeyheyLBJ
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden160 Posts
September 08 2010 11:02 GMT
#881
On September 08 2010 20:00 Drazzzt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2010 19:57 forklift wrote:
On September 08 2010 19:52 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
It seems like none of you have a clue about good play and bad play and thus have to refer to imbalance after every result. Polt outplayed MinChul simple as that.


It seems you don't either, seeing as how you didn't even make it past qualifiers.

Ban pls. This is the greatest BS i've read for months.
Seriously.


yeah can't say something bad about poor nazgul *cry*
demonik187
Profile Joined August 2010
United States575 Posts
September 08 2010 11:02 GMT
#882
why do zerg veto kulas ravine?
We march to victory!
Cade
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1420 Posts
September 08 2010 11:02 GMT
#883
On September 08 2010 20:00 JamesKEenan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2010 19:52 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
It seems like none of you have a clue about good play and bad play and thus have to refer to imbalance after every result. Polt outplayed MinChul simple as that.


I don't know... Reasonably speaking, we can acknowledge that the game was created by *humans*. There are going to be balance imperfections. Some bigger than others.

And these guys are playing for a LOT of money. And this is supposed to be a contest of skill. Which is pride and talent demonstration.

Balance IS and *should* be a concern for these guys. I'm not saying balance is an issue *here*, but no one should ever belittle balance discussion. Balance should always be discussed.


Discussing balance and 1000 people who don't even play on the highest level whining about balance, are two completely different things
regulat0r
Profile Joined September 2010
United States41 Posts
September 08 2010 11:03 GMT
#884
angry chipmunk inc!
GSL!
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
September 08 2010 11:03 GMT
#885
On September 08 2010 19:58 TheRabidDeer wrote:
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On September 08 2010 19:52 Dionyseus wrote:
Oh man Jangminchul got raped...
But on game 2 I don't understand why he just didn't put a probe near his natural, he knew polt had marauders close-by. Also after he got his nexus sniped, why didn't he invest in some cannons?

450-600 on cannons and the nexus wouldve still died. He had no intention of having the marauders live in the first place.


4 Marauders does not kill 3 cannons that easily.
9/5/10 P acct: NA D 10,683 651pts 69w56L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/290365/LetoAtreides T acct: NA D 16,137 553pts 70w67L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/1560008/Khrone Z: NA G 16,058 465pts 28w26L http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1997354/Omnius
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
September 08 2010 11:03 GMT
#886
On September 08 2010 20:02 demonik187 wrote:
why do zerg veto kulas ravine?


Many spots to abuse reapers.
Revolutionist fan
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
September 08 2010 11:03 GMT
#887
ChipmunkPrime(Z) at 6, RexZanDarke(P) at 12 on LT.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
NeoLearner
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Belgium1847 Posts
September 08 2010 11:03 GMT
#888
On September 08 2010 20:02 demonik187 wrote:
why do zerg veto kulas ravine?


Hard to defend, open natural with a cliff right on top of it. That cliff is the thing nightmares are made off...
Bankai - Correlation does not imply causation
JamesKEenan
Profile Joined August 2010
United States69 Posts
September 08 2010 11:03 GMT
#889
On September 08 2010 20:02 Vokasak wrote:
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On September 08 2010 20:00 JamesKEenan wrote:. Balance should always be discussed.


Not in LR threads, it shouldn't.


Totally fair. Agreed.
Pyre
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1940 Posts
September 08 2010 11:03 GMT
#890
On September 08 2010 20:02 demonik187 wrote:
why do zerg veto kulas ravine?


The natural has a big cliff that terran can abuse in a 101 different ways.
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
September 08 2010 11:03 GMT
#891
jangminchul has had really bad luck with the brackets too....I think polt and IdrA/cool have been the best players of their races respectively that we've seen so far; I guess if his opponent had been just a "little" bit worse, he would've had it
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
September 08 2010 11:03 GMT
#892
On September 08 2010 20:02 demonik187 wrote:
why do zerg veto kulas ravine?


There are no open spaces so you get funneled everywhere. There are cliffs everywhere that air units or cliffing can abuse.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
demonik187
Profile Joined August 2010
United States575 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-08 11:04:31
September 08 2010 11:04 GMT
#893
So kulas is good for terran to abuse against zerg, but what could a toss player do?
We march to victory!
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51554 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-08 11:04:24
September 08 2010 11:04 GMT
#894
Can we please leave balance discussion and/or whining out of this (and future) LR threads? It just does nothing but bloat the thread full of crap.
Commentator
DminusTerran
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1337 Posts
September 08 2010 11:04 GMT
#895
Wow can balance complaints in these threads please be a warning worthy offense, I don't particularly care whether or not the complaints might be valid. It ruins these threads, pretty fucking hard since nobody actually talks about the strategies that took place.
Apolo
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal1259 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-08 11:04:47
September 08 2010 11:04 GMT
#896
On September 08 2010 19:53 Pyre wrote:
Seriously 5 marauders snipe a nexus in under 10 secs. How many zeals/stakers would it take to snipe a repairing command center? Of course they can always lift.


There's no point in talking about zealot sniping because if it's aggaisnt a planetary fortress they'll die, if it's aggainst OC it will lift up. Colossus suck aggainst buildings, templars can't attack them, immortals are always too few, sentries no point, dt too few and fragile, phoenixs, void rays are good but easily countered and not by far as used as marauders, and that leaves stalkers which are the units with lowest dps in the game. You can test it but, it probably takes close to triple the stalkers to take a OC down as fast as marauders take a nexus.

Terran were made thinking that they are immobile and slow, their buildigns lifting up, salvage bunkers, and stim, but they're not so immobile. I'd go as far to say they're as or more mobile than protoss because of stim, their bio being not that slow even without stim, and medivac drops.

I don't really care what nazgul, sauron or the pope say about the matchup not being imbalanced. They are not infallible and they are wrong, as many people that see no imbalance on TvP are, and if blizzard wants the matchup to be fair they will have to bring some nerfs more than the ones already announced. I will be smiling in the future after this happens thinking about the many deniers, pretending everything is ok.

Cheers

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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50638 Posts
September 08 2010 11:04 GMT
#897
Alvin and the chipmunks references?
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
September 08 2010 11:04 GMT
#898
On September 08 2010 19:59 Carnac wrote:
Stop talking balance in live report threads

so we cant voice our honest opinion about the games we see? whats the point of a LR thread then? If I see 2 players and think one is much better than the other but the winner abuses a totally imbalanced strat or map I cant comment on the game at all? Its like keeping map balance out of a LR thread back when they played DMZ 2on2 in PL. Some situations just force certain topics upon the discussion
Savior: "I will cheat everyone again in SC2!" - SCII Beta Tester
JamesKEenan
Profile Joined August 2010
United States69 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-08 11:05:00
September 08 2010 11:04 GMT
#899
On September 08 2010 20:03 Salteador Neo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2010 20:02 demonik187 wrote:
why do zerg veto kulas ravine?


Many spots to abuse reapers.

And tank drops. And landed vikings.
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
September 08 2010 11:04 GMT
#900
standard gate core and gas pool builds so far.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
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