• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:08
CEST 23:08
KST 06:08
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers13Maestros of the Game 2 announced82026 GSL Tour plans announced14Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid24
StarCraft 2
General
Maestros of the Game 2 announced Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists MaNa leaves Team Liquid 2026 GSL Tour plans announced Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 522 Flip My Base The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss Mutation # 520 Moving Fees
Brood War
General
Pros React To: ASL S21, Ro.16 Group C ASL21 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [TOOL] Starcraft Chat Translator Data needed
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro16 Group C [ASL21] Ro16 Group D [ASL21] Ro16 Group B
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Diablo IV Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
McBoner: A hockey love story 2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1999 users

[GSL] About GSL Streams and VODs - Page 24

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
1697 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 22 23 24 25 26 85 Next
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
September 01 2010 14:41 GMT
#461
lol they are crazy. if they think its smart to get maybe 200 people that pay instead of 50k+ people watching whatever.

restreams,youtube,watching korean version etc solves.


feels like 2004 when people were rehosting vods and you had to ask for the secret acc+pass here ~
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Kinsman
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada18 Posts
September 01 2010 14:41 GMT
#462
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Oh well, can't imagine the torrents of the VODs will take long to show up. And torrents are much, much harder to silence then restreamers and youtube accounts.
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
September 01 2010 14:42 GMT
#463
On September 01 2010 23:34 FireHazard wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=17883&currentpage=151#3033

It appears Junnka posted in the wrong thread accidentally.

Show nested quote +
hey guys I am not supposed to say this officially but this is my opinion.
the price does seem unfair and the quality may not be worth it.
but hosting a server in US and provinding english commentary/subtitles cannot be done free.
I guess many of you are not aware of gomtv's balance sheet past few years.
we;ve been understaffed and underpaid for ages now.
If we were hosting just one competition it could be done for free, but we have 2 more seasons just this year, and if we are to provide better streams for next season we need money.
as far as i know no other gaming site will be streaming or if they do it will be illegal.
I personally feel sorry how things turned out and although things might change in the future depending on the outcome, for now it can not be altered.
I am not giving up though. i will continue to work to satisfy the needs of oversea fans.

I don't buy it for a minute. Gretech bought the rights for SC2 in Korea. Knowing Actiblizz I am 100% sure it wasn't cheap. There's no way a company that is struggling would have been able to acquire the rights. They wouldn't be able to pay and I'm sure Actiblizz wouldn't be putting their property in such unreliable hands. If you believe this then I have some snake oil to sell you.

As to the illegal thing, I'm pretty sure rebroadcasting OGN and MBC is technically illegal. The internet doesn't give a fuck. I don't see anyone not tuning in because of moral qualms.
FireHazard
Profile Joined August 2010
United States54 Posts
September 01 2010 14:44 GMT
#464
Yeah, you'd think Blizzard at least would want a reliable, global broadcaster for their new, shiny sport. They wouldn't just drop it on some company that can't afford a quality stream or find non-korean advertising dollars.
The_DjiN
Profile Joined June 2008
Germany86 Posts
September 01 2010 14:44 GMT
#465
On September 01 2010 23:41 Kinsman wrote:
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Oh well, can't imagine the torrents of the VODs will take long to show up. And torrents are much, much harder to silence then restreamers and youtube accounts.


totally true. i wont pay a cent, i will just wait patiently for the torrents, which wont take long =)
how can you charge 20$ a month?? seriously i pay 6$ a month to watch all soccer matches in german league, and i guess having 15 matches a week in a big stadium is alot more expensive then having some guys playing in front of the computer....
sas01
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada303 Posts
September 01 2010 14:45 GMT
#466
Alright everyone, hit the forums.... if they see the overwhelming response, they might change their minds :/
Badjas
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Netherlands2038 Posts
September 01 2010 14:46 GMT
#467
Aww man this will really hurt viewer rates. Including me as a viewer, as long as it's for payment.

Guess there's always live report threads.
I <3 the internet, I <3 you
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
September 01 2010 14:48 GMT
#468
I just realized, they're probably getting more hits on their site now than they will during the matches. Should have put some ads up.
Goatlust
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia131 Posts
September 01 2010 14:50 GMT
#469
I honestly can't see how Blizzard would spend so much money promoting SC2 and obviously put a lot into marketing SC2 as an e-sports game and put their faith into a company which is either:

(a) incapable of doing justice to SC2 e-sports on a global level.
or (b) is committed to totally arse-fucking foreign fans thinking they'll make a quick buck out of it.
NukeTheBunnys
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1004 Posts
September 01 2010 14:51 GMT
#470
Wow I would never pay that much EVER. So I try to go to their site to tell them this, and I create an account then I cant even sign in...

I was excited for the GSL, now I dont even care what happens to it, Im just not going to watch
When you play the game of drones you win or you die.
OTIX
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden491 Posts
September 01 2010 14:54 GMT
#471
This makes me so sad. I paid for premium at both IEM and MLG but there is no way I can convince myself to pay $50 a month for GSL. And now there's no way I can convince my brother or anyone else to watch this awesome e-sport either. I was so excited for this tourney too .
CoL_DarkstaR
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany649 Posts
September 01 2010 14:56 GMT
#472
This is the gayest thing ever to happen to starcraft II. And that from the so-called land of e-sports? It's ridiculous. 40€ for a game itself is not cheap at all, but half that price just to watch some (although awesome) games commentated by tastosis is not reasonable at all!

Assuming that the price would be something like 5$ instead of 20$, there would still be a lot people that don't even know how to sign up or aren't allowed because they are underage and what not...

Seriously, this will hit Gom TV super hard, and i'm for sure going to watch on OGN or restreams.
Zakka
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands762 Posts
September 01 2010 14:57 GMT
#473
I will pay the 20 bucks if the stream is good, but it seems the connection is bad even with the Fiberwire connection I havce here at work T__T. I think that is the biggest problem, not the price.
Amsterdam
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 14:59:29
September 01 2010 14:58 GMT
#474
On September 01 2010 23:50 Goatlust wrote:
I honestly can't see how Blizzard would spend so much money promoting SC2 and obviously put a lot into marketing SC2 as an e-sports game and put their faith into a company which is either:

(a) incapable of doing justice to SC2 e-sports on a global level.
or (b) is committed to totally arse-fucking foreign fans thinking they'll make a quick buck out of it.


this

blizzard can't seriously be interested in a company charging people 50 bucks just to view sc2 for one month; I mean, they can't possibly think that esport will grow if people have to pay effectively the same amount as the actual game itself costs just to watch for one month

blizzard is - or at least should be - interested in getting to the next level with sc2...because only then they will be able to demand high prices for the intellectual property rights; therefore from the viewpoint of blizz this makes no sense either
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
The_DjiN
Profile Joined June 2008
Germany86 Posts
September 01 2010 14:58 GMT
#475
the vod ticket is 30$?? seriouly?....
nicoaldo
Profile Joined March 2009
Argentina939 Posts
September 01 2010 14:58 GMT
#476
I´m guessing they have experience in this kind of bussines, but to me it feels like they will have like 100-200? subscribers, while a free live stream would have like 15000 or more viewers if it is at a decent time... i´m not sure what gives a bigger profit, but the site wont grow too much with this policy.
And, yeah, torrents wont take long to be avaliable, and theres no fucking way they could deal with that.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
September 01 2010 14:59 GMT
#477
Well a positive thing is, It's really really f-ing sweet that you can get it on your ipod/phone.
krynis
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada43 Posts
September 01 2010 14:59 GMT
#478
I sadly cannot afford this atm, my budget is non existent for this month due to purchasing new hardware, its a shame because I was looking forward to this.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
September 01 2010 15:01 GMT
#479
I hope at least the 64 participants are granted access for free. It's crucial for them to watch their opponent's matches, and if the viewing fee divides them into haves and have-nots, it won't be fair.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Alphaes
Profile Joined April 2010
United States651 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 15:10:46
September 01 2010 15:01 GMT
#480
On September 01 2010 23:42 thopol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 23:34 FireHazard wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=17883&currentpage=151#3033

It appears Junnka posted in the wrong thread accidentally.

hey guys I am not supposed to say this officially but this is my opinion.
the price does seem unfair and the quality may not be worth it.
but hosting a server in US and provinding english commentary/subtitles cannot be done free.
I guess many of you are not aware of gomtv's balance sheet past few years.
we;ve been understaffed and underpaid for ages now.
If we were hosting just one competition it could be done for free, but we have 2 more seasons just this year, and if we are to provide better streams for next season we need money.
as far as i know no other gaming site will be streaming or if they do it will be illegal.
I personally feel sorry how things turned out and although things might change in the future depending on the outcome, for now it can not be altered.
I am not giving up though. i will continue to work to satisfy the needs of oversea fans.


I don't buy it for a minute. Gretech bought the rights for SC2 in Korea. Knowing Actiblizz I am 100% sure it wasn't cheap. There's no way a company that is struggling would have been able to acquire the rights. They wouldn't be able to pay and I'm sure Actiblizz wouldn't be putting their property in such unreliable hands. If you believe this then I have some snake oil to sell you.

As to the illegal thing, I'm pretty sure rebroadcasting OGN and MBC is technically illegal. The internet doesn't give a fuck. I don't see anyone not tuning in because of moral qualms.


It feels more to me that they failed to do their research properly, and they're caught in situation where they're damned if they do, and damned if they don't. Maybe they should've been a bit more conservative about the whole enterprise to start off with, as all the hype that was built up looks to bite them back doubly hard.

Hopefully after failing to acquire almost any subscriptions in the first season, they'll come to see the folly of their ways and offer up a free stream. Though it's just not unlikely if they end up stopping the English service altogether. Poor Tasteless/Artosis though, I wonder what they feel like getting caught up in all this.
What this
Prev 1 22 23 24 25 26 85 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 52m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 637
elazer 242
ProTech143
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 15756
Calm 2593
BeSt 316
Rush 166
firebathero 93
Terrorterran 16
ajuk12(nOOB) 15
Dota 2
monkeys_forever278
Pyrionflax182
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps2426
fl0m1728
tarik_tv1
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu423
Other Games
summit1g5680
Grubby3874
FrodaN809
shahzam407
C9.Mang0245
mouzStarbuck229
Trikslyr146
Mew2King56
ArmadaUGS51
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV339
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 77
• Reevou 4
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2986
League of Legends
• Doublelift1399
Other Games
• imaqtpie1025
• Shiphtur226
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
2h 52m
The PondCast
12h 52m
KCM Race Survival
12h 52m
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
13h 52m
Gerald vs herO
Clem vs Cure
ByuN vs Solar
Rogue vs MaxPax
ShoWTimE vs TBD
OSC
17h 52m
CranKy Ducklings
1d 2h
Escore
1d 12h
RSL Revival
1d 19h
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
2 days
[ Show More ]
Universe Titan Cup
2 days
Rogue vs Percival
Ladder Legends
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
BSL
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
3 days
Ladder Legends
3 days
BSL
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Soma vs hero
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Leta vs YSC
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-04-20
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Proleague 2026-04-22
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W4
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.