thats a bad joke gomtv

it will come out like that:
50$ (stream+vods) ~ 20viewer
10$ (stream+vods) ~ 200viewer
5$ (stream+vods) ~ 2000view

obviosly a way lower price would have been better, a free stream should produce 50k viewer easy!

good luck with ur first fail season ...
just hope kespa will be able to win the interest conflict with gom

sas01

Canada303 Posts

September 01 2010 15:02 GMT

#482

I seriously can't understand why they can't have a low quality stream paid by advertisers, i mean this event can attract a huge number of ppl and you would think there would be a significant number of companies willing to advertise to gamers around the world...

sleepingdog

Austria6145 Posts

September 01 2010 15:05 GMT

#483

It feels more to me that they failed to do their research properly, and they're caught in situation where they're damned if they do, and damned if they don't. Maybe they should've been a bit more conservative about the whole enterprise to start off with, as all the hype that was built up looks to bite them back doubly hard.

I highly doubt that - the announced prizes are so high, you can't do that without 3rd-party-financing ;everybody who has remote experience in the finance-sector knows what that means: there's just no way you can get this amount of money without a proper business plan; there's just no bank that would go like "ohh...you wanna make a sc2-tourney and need a couple hundred thousand bucks to pull it off....well....yeah, sure, why the hell not"

DasHawk

Denmark362 Posts

September 01 2010 15:06 GMT

#484

I would proberly pay 20-30$ for livestream AND VOD's if they were providing streams at a higher bitrate - the bitrate seems extremely low considering you pay for it.

I realy dont understand that you have to purchase VOD's and livestream seperatly, you shoud get both if you pay. Especialy since many people wont be able to watch all the livestreams considering the time its being broadcast.

I know alot of people in here just want a free stream, but honestly i dont mind paying. But the current product they plan on providing is just too expensive concidering what you get.
Sure hope they take all the complaints into concideration, and lower the price or provide a free stream instead...

OTIX

Sweden491 Posts

September 01 2010 15:07 GMT

#485

And i feel like such an idiot too. All along I thought that Blizzard had some huge plans going on behind the scenes to turn SC2 into the biggest e-sport ever. When I saw the original announcement of GSL with the enormous prizepools and the great casters I was so excited. I thought it was really happening, that it was in good hands.

Turns out the only plan Blizz had was to turn the whole thing over to a bunch of fuck-ups and then leave them alone to fuck it up.

I'm officially an ex-fanboy.

QueueQueue

Canada1000 Posts

September 01 2010 15:09 GMT

#486

That sucks. Really going to dampen the spread of e-sports as new comers will never actually pay to watch. Even a lot of dedicated Starcraft fans won't pay for this.

Woyn

United Kingdom1628 Posts

September 01 2010 15:09 GMT

#487

I think this is a total shame, that with 2 figures like Artosis and Tasteless commentating we wont be able to help them out. The SC community has always been closenit and these guys are away working in this field, which would be a dream to most of us, and many of us wont be able to support them by affording monthly payments of 20+$..

FireHazard

United States54 Posts

September 01 2010 15:13 GMT

#488

On September 02 2010 00:07 OTIX wrote:
And i feel like such an idiot too. All along I thought that Blizzard had some huge plans going on behind the scenes to turn SC2 into the biggest e-sport ever. When I saw the original announcement of GSL with the enormous prizepools and the great casters I was so excited. I thought it was really happening, that it was in good hands.

Turns out the only plan Blizz had was to turn the whole thing over to a bunch of fuck-ups and then leave them alone to fuck it up.

I'm officially an ex-fanboy.

I'm with you there. I posted a thread on the NA SC2 battlenet forums to stir up some rage. Pretty frustrating stuff.

Rabbitmaster

1357 Posts

September 01 2010 15:14 GMT

#489

[B]I'm officially an ex-fanboy.

w0rd

Vanger

Germany10 Posts

September 01 2010 15:15 GMT

#490

Such a shame..
I really hope someone will pirate stream the GSL, because that is what they deserve for pulling of something like this.

Yurie

11679 Posts

September 01 2010 15:18 GMT

#491

Interesting idea would be if they didn't stop re-streams. That way they don't have to stream to the majority of the watchers (their servers won't overload again) while making money of the people that actually buys it to re-stream or have good routing to Korea.

pred470r

Bulgaria3265 Posts

September 01 2010 15:18 GMT

#492

TL should open an account for donations, so people can chip in till there's enough money for a HQ stream, and then stream it.

amanet

Croatia334 Posts

September 01 2010 15:19 GMT

#493

sad

sleepingdog

Austria6145 Posts

September 01 2010 15:20 GMT

#494

On September 02 2010 00:18 Yurie wrote:
Interesting idea would be if they didn't stop re-streams. That way they don't have to stream to the majority of the watchers (their servers won't overload again) while making money of the people that actually buys it to re-stream or have good routing to Korea.

they won't be able to attract big companies for advertisement for following tournaments though

Spidinko

Slovakia1174 Posts

September 01 2010 15:22 GMT

#495

I'm very dissapointed by your decision. And as you don't care much about us let's just hope we'll see you fail again.
Looking forward to watching some restreams.

PrinceXizor

United States17713 Posts

September 01 2010 15:22 GMT

#496

What they should do is go to a few prominent Foreigner communities and say: if you guys give us 1000 dollars your community can watch this tournament with restrictions, like requiring membership in the community via having a private restream or somethign. so the starcraft communities could raise the money as a group to be able to watch. I mean what if each of us gave a few dollars we would raise that money easily here at TL. they will be rewarding the most loyal groups by doing so. i don't know though how this will turn out, i understand their need, but i don't think they could do this even to watch the OSL or MSL. i wouldn't pay this much for that. i might pay for daily access though, just to watch IDRA and TLO.

NukeTheBunnys

United States1004 Posts

September 01 2010 15:24 GMT

#497

On September 01 2010 23:42 thopol wrote:

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I don't buy it for a minute. Gretech bought the rights for SC2 in Korea. Knowing Actiblizz I am 100% sure it wasn't cheap. There's no way a company that is struggling would have been able to acquire the rights. They wouldn't be able to pay and I'm sure Actiblizz wouldn't be putting their property in such unreliable hands. If you believe this then I have some snake oil to sell you.

As to the illegal thing, I'm pretty sure rebroadcasting OGN and MBC is technically illegal. The internet doesn't give a fuck. I don't see anyone not tuning in because of moral qualms.

I like the idea that we foreigners have the money to bail out gomtv and we can afford to pay 50 a month on a relatively small amount of entertainment, really I do I wish it was even remotely true, cause then I would have a lot more money then I do have. When the broad cast for next season maybe they will see that they have absolutely no foreign viewers and will decide to make it a free stream supported by advertising. Of course they might just stop doing any english content for it and that's that.

The_DjiN

Germany86 Posts

September 01 2010 15:24 GMT

#498

What GSL is saying to us is: "We deny 95+% of the foreign fans to watch anything of this."

Good message oO

Fadetowhite

Korea (South)302 Posts

September 01 2010 15:24 GMT

#499

would be more intresting if it was vods+ ability to download all replays.

Solai

204 Posts

September 01 2010 15:27 GMT

#500

I am really surprised that GOM shoots themselves in their knees like that. In any case, what pisses me off the most is the fact that koreans get it for free, while they are trying to milk everyone else.