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odeSSa
Profile Joined November 2009
Sweden198 Posts
August 28 2010 20:17 GMT
#1901
I really like kiwikaki´s zealot warp in blocking sockes zealots that was heading for the mineral line, well timed!
Cranberries
Profile Joined July 2010
Wales567 Posts
August 28 2010 20:17 GMT
#1902
Socke's micro isn't as good as Kiwi's...

Time for Korean 4 gate to shine through! ^.^
Boonesbane
Profile Joined May 2010
United States170 Posts
August 28 2010 20:17 GMT
#1903
That was a super exciting game, pvp is legitimately my favorite mirror.
" good sir, you appear to be somewhat lacking in intelligence. please refrain from posting until this is remedied, since it renders your opinions slightly less than correct and has a tendency to irritate more informed forum-goers. " - Grack "idrA" Fields
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
August 28 2010 20:17 GMT
#1904
I'm a bit of a "noob" so correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the point of base advantage was that you can beat early aggression by macroing with the safety given by the timing advantage as your opponent has to take his army across the map. Seems like PvP kind of sucks because Warpgates/Proxy Pylons remove that, narrowing the options available and makes early aggression so viable that you have to prepare to defend against it too much to really come up with some unique, macro-orientated style. And yes, you can proxy in BW, but there it's more obvious, more risky and deviates a lot more from standard builds.

Hopefully the matchup develops into something unrecognisable because it's really pretty boring. I can't see any sort of solution. I think a big help for most matchups would be larger maps but that would likely make it even worse for PvP.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
ziggymondais
Profile Joined July 2009
United States238 Posts
August 28 2010 20:17 GMT
#1905
After that last match all I can think about are the folks complaining about the lack of micro in SC2 when beta launched...
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
August 28 2010 20:17 GMT
#1906
Actually HD, if Socke wins they have to play another game. =\
Combine
Profile Joined July 2010
United States812 Posts
August 28 2010 20:18 GMT
#1907
On August 29 2010 05:16 King K. Rool wrote:
Are people that surprised about the amount of micro? I mean it's a low econ game.

edit: Not to say the micro wasn't impressive.

Not as much the amount, just how cool the micro was.
(ಥ_ಥ)
Funkatron
Profile Joined July 2010
United States725 Posts
August 28 2010 20:18 GMT
#1908
what disadvantage will they have in the final?
mprs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2933 Posts
August 28 2010 20:18 GMT
#1909
wow the probes lol
We talkin about PRACTICE
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1838 Posts
August 28 2010 20:19 GMT
#1910
On August 29 2010 05:17 Ascorius wrote:
I love these games. But in the long run I think the map-pool is the real problem with SC2 as an E-sport. Its too in your face and gets too cheesy (prolly will get more and more cheesy over time). The mapsizes needs to be increased. Increased by alot in my opinion, so that tactical movement and small chokes doesnt become so important. Why isnt there even 1 map without a choke? Or even one map were it would take quite alot of time to move your forces across.



Yeah, I was watching MSL today, and the map are so huge, really lead into macro games, and that's what SC2 needs also I think. THe current maps all allow for one base pushes
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
August 28 2010 20:19 GMT
#1911
kiwikaki really shows the strength of a former wc3-player - I love it, that's why I play protoss too, you can get sooo much out of your units with proper micro
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
SilentCrono
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1420 Posts
August 28 2010 20:19 GMT
#1912
PvP is the worst MU ever. every fucking game has to be a 4gate? really?
♞ Your soul will forever be lost in the void of a horse. ♞
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
August 28 2010 20:19 GMT
#1913
On August 29 2010 05:19 SilentCrono wrote:
PvP is the worst MU ever. every fucking game has to be a 4gate? really?

At least it's fun to watch at times, unlike ZvZ.
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
August 28 2010 20:20 GMT
#1914
On August 29 2010 05:18 Funkatron wrote:
what disadvantage will they have in the final?


Losers bracket winner has to face the winners bracket final and beat them in 2 series. If they've already played, then instead it becomes 1 best of 7 with the previous series score added on first.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
Hansel
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany311 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 20:21:12
August 28 2010 20:20 GMT
#1915
On August 29 2010 05:13 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 05:11 Hansel wrote:
On August 29 2010 04:59 CrazyCow wrote:
How is showing the same commercial twice in one commercial break effective advertising?

They make it very clear to you that for such a tourney the producers of consumer goods arent actually lining up to pay for such events. Its all about connecting the brand to the viewer, they try to connect sensual experience (for instance exitement about a starcraft game) to the Logo. Look at advertising for stuff like Oil of Olaz (which is owned by Proctor&Gamble too just like old spice), they use a similiar approach: its all about the audience not the product. Now imagine you are going to buy some shower gel next time. You are now (because of this stream perhaps) more likely to open an old spice one and then the next step kicks of marketing techniques for fast moving consumer goods kick in: the smell.

The ads are pretty humorous and I think that they're something that the average gamer might find funny and entertaining. At least the Old Spice ads which are the best ever. Not the Odor Blocker thing though..

Yes agreed. pretty witty stuff, dont like the one with the guy in the hospital and the mans ass: they are making me feel uncomfortable which is bad for actually selling the product.
I would like to know what the actual cost of such an event is (including organization and rent for rooms/pcs etc) because i want to know the $spent per viewer :_D
edit: sadly you cant see the number of people watching the stream :-((
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV_hDyfmEw4
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
August 28 2010 20:20 GMT
#1916
On August 29 2010 05:19 SilentCrono wrote:
PvP is the worst MU ever. every fucking game has to be a 4gate? really?


It's 4-gate in any P matchup.
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
qoiN
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden576 Posts
August 28 2010 20:20 GMT
#1917
korean 4gate allin gogogo!
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
August 28 2010 20:20 GMT
#1918
On August 29 2010 05:19 SilentCrono wrote:
PvP is the worst MU ever. every fucking game has to be a 4gate? really?

Pfff and Blizzard thinks that quick zealots are the major problem.
mrblue182
Profile Joined April 2010
United States151 Posts
August 28 2010 20:20 GMT
#1919
On August 29 2010 05:17 Ascorius wrote:
I love these games. But in the long run I think the map-pool is the real problem with SC2 as an E-sport. Its too in your face and gets too cheesy (prolly will get more and more cheesy over time). The mapsizes needs to be increased. Increased by alot in my opinion, so that tactical movement and small chokes doesnt become so important. Why isnt there even 1 map without a choke? Or even one map were it would take quite alot of time to move your forces across.


Desert Oasis.
DarkspearTribe
Profile Joined August 2010
568 Posts
August 28 2010 20:20 GMT
#1920
People after IEM:

"5 terrans 3 zergs - Protoss is definely balanced"

MLG - Semi finals PvP; Loser finals - PvP; Finals - PvP

and there were like 2 times more terrans then protoss
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