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G2Wolf
Profile Joined July 2010
United States261 Posts
August 04 2010 21:28 GMT
#21
On August 04 2010 16:35 MeistR wrote:
Okay, so it's been established that giving a bye is the way to go, regardless of the number of entrants. But who do you give the byes to?

Seeding a 512 player tournament is no easy task. On what basis would you seed them? I could understand seeding players based on their performance in a previous competition of the same tournament (e.g. seeding them for cup #23 based on their cup #22 performance). Unfortunately, I'm working with a first-time tournament.

Obviously, expecting to seed 512 players with almost nothing to go off of, or even if you did, is way too time consuming to do by hand. You could just seed 50 players and random the rest. With the SC2 ladder divisions, you could use the ladder for a base to start off of for seeding. You could go about just seeding just the diamond ranked players, since you know they'll most likely have a decent bit of skill to get into diamond.

On August 04 2010 17:07 MeistR wrote: Do you know of any computer programs (other than a TI-89, lol) that quickly and randomly assigns numbers?

For random numbers, http://www.random.org/ is such an awesome site.
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daveydweeb
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia40 Posts
August 04 2010 22:45 GMT
#22
On August 05 2010 02:52 annul wrote:
As stated above multiple times, debate tournaments have run swiss-style with power matchups forever. It's very easy to do. It also allows everyone to play every round until the playoffs.

Debate tournaments use what is called a "tab program" -- if you Google it, I am sure one exists for free and you can just use it for sc2


I was going to suggest Tabbie, or simply provide a copy of the Worlds spreadsheet from Dublin (2007?), but it's more suited for 4v4 games rather than 1v1.
xJaCEx
Profile Joined August 2010
155 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-05 01:12:17
August 05 2010 01:09 GMT
#23
If I might I was a kinda semi pro magic the gathering player and the bye system they had in that game was so bad. The reason for byes is justifible you want to reward good players but if you over do it new players wont have a as much of a chance. So if you do have byes do not over do it like mtg did basically the pros in that game could just walk in and watch people play in the events for a good 3 hours before having to even play there first game and thats a huge advantage as playing games can take a lot out of you if its a hard match up. The pros should already be good enough to win the first few anyhow so they really shouldn't need a bye. And personally I wouldn't want one as I would rather have the chance to say I x-0ed the event instead of I x-0ed with 3 free wins.

Oh wait I didn't read this at all I guess I thought it was byes for high ranked players. I think just randomly giving someone a bye because you cant find an opponent is fine. It makes running the event that much easyer and it hardly has any effect as it wont even happen most rounds.
First blood is as good as anything.
G2Wolf
Profile Joined July 2010
United States261 Posts
August 05 2010 01:21 GMT
#24
With a single elimination bracket of the proper size based on the number of players, it's impossible to have more than just a 1st round bye, and you'd still have to play every round after that.
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