EPTThe Minerva Invictus Tournament - Page 43
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mrlie3
Canada350 Posts
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
On August 21 2010 07:36 Catreina wrote: Just as a point of fact - I ran the Oracle League (a Heroes of Might and Magic tournament website) with over 2000 players at its peak, I have run LAN tournaments, I am a Magic: the Gathering judge in New England, and have been a part of MUCH larger than 500 player tournaments in the past, online and offline. Your thought that I have "never really run anything large scale before' is intriguing, considering you have absolutely zero knowledge of what I have and have not done outside of Starcraft 2. I will let Tesla explain the intricacies of race selection during tournaments, and other matters. My apologies for the assumptions about your past experience. But my point still stands, your rules make no sense for a large scale SC tournament. Taking on 512 players at this point when your tournament is in it's first run seems overzealous, and I can see close to half of the players dropping out very quickly. Race selection is easy. Send in everything with each registration, and if you have to players where a conflict occurs (i.e, two Zergs who PvZ) they double blind. It's not that hard. | ||
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ICCup.Tesla
United States841 Posts
On August 21 2010 07:24 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote: I didn't sign up, first of all. I'm asking why? Conflict is unreasonable, imo. If you have players who are signed up for multiple tournaments, usually organizers (erherm: YOU) are flexible to let them schedule accordingly. A lot of the rules seem overbearing. I dunno how it is in SC2 with racepicking, but if it's anything like BW, you've screwed over a large chunk of players by saying they have to pick one race the entire tournament. A ToS? For a tournament? Why? You reserve the right to not notify players of a rules change? I understand not wanting to e-mail 512 players, but a post with a link in the OP should be sufficient. I can tell you've never really run anything large scale before, which is why I question your judgment in running a 512 person tournament your first time out (you being Catreina, not Tesla). It seems you got a little overzealous here, and I wish you the best, but I'm telling you now - be prepared for the worst. Edit: Catreina, take a page out of Tesla's book. When you're organizing a tournament, don't snap at people who ask questions. Other people might get offended, and for something with this many rules in place, you come off in a very unprofessional light. Well we do our best, please understand that this is one of the largest tournaments being hosted in sc 2 atm. If we can run larger than this in the future - we might look into it. As for the race picking we are using the same rules that are pretty much used in an Official tournament - both sc 1 and sc 2. Many tournaments do not allow race changing. Cause it has an unfair advantage. Then people could research a player for the next day and say "oh, his worst match up is.." and use that against the player. We don't like that. We want to allow a fair game play across the board. So we simply used what we are comfortable with. Of course it is subject to change, if we feel that many people do not like it. However for this tournament it is as it is. It was posted up there like that, along with rules and disclaimers saying that if you sign up you do agree to all our rules. I should know, I wrote those. XD As for the ability to not notify players if rules change - We have only changed them once and its listed in the thread. Its really a lot of work. Its more or less there incase we become very busy and are unable to update it. We of course, are going to do our best to notify players if we change something. As a person who studies law, I would find it very unfair to just change rules without notification. Once again that is just there for formality. As for prepare for this event... Cat and I have pretty much done nothing more than live, breath, eat, drink and sleep this event the last couple weeks. We have done our best to prepare for almost any situation, now the only thing to do is actually host it and pray it all goes smoothly. As for professionalism, I hope you will give us a bit of a break. We both have been working very very hard. So we are bit tired and exhausted but also excited at the same time. I hope you could understand why our responses might not always be the best. Do you have any further questions though? If you have some positive feedback for future tournaments, please let us know after tomorrow evening when we finish this one up. Thank you again for stopping by and voicing your concerns. | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
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ICCup.Tesla
United States841 Posts
On August 21 2010 07:44 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote: Apparently you missed the part in BW where players chose matchups in advance. Maybe I did but my experience is from as an ICCup Admin. Incase you dont know or understand my knowledge, please allow me to enlighten you off which rules I go off and why (I will simply post what I have done for iccup to show you where I get my knowledge from): My jobs at ICCup have been as the following: Ladder Admin for Sc 1; Ladder Super Admin for Sc 1; Forum Super Admin for Sc 1; Developers Team/Director's Assistant; English Translator; DotA Head Admin; Adviser/Commentator/Tournament Planner for ICCup Tv; Head Admin for Sc 2 for ICCup and then News for all of ICCup. Now of course this does not count other things I did, such as learning both Tournament and Counter Abuse team to do things there and assist admins in those and be there for the national tournaments. However never have I see what you are talking about. So my experience is based off what I learned at ICCup. | ||
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ICCup.Tesla
United States841 Posts
* Friday, August 20th & Saturday, August 21st, 2010 in Pacific Standard Time(PST) - CHECK IN STARTS A 7 PM * Friday, August 20th & Saturday, August 21st, 2010 in Mountain Standard Time(MST) - CHECK IN STARTS AT 8 PM * Friday, August 20th & Saturday, August 21st, 2010 in Central Standard Time(CST) - CHECK IN STARTS AT 9 PM * Friday, August 20th & Saturday, August 21st, 2010 in Eastern Standard Time (EST) - CHECK IN STARTS AT 10 PM * For Saturday, August 21st & Sunday, August 22nd, 2010 ~ (Seoul, Korea) in Korean Standard Time(KST) - CHECK IN STARTS AT 11 AM | ||
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Fisher
United States119 Posts
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Alou
United States3748 Posts
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ShoelessSteve
Canada7 Posts
Now for my question. Do the backup players check in the same time as the regular players? | ||
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AllDay_sc2
United States7 Posts
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MorNin
United States443 Posts
On August 21 2010 08:06 Fisher wrote: THANKS FOR ANSWERING MY QUESTION!!!!! Now that I have your attention this time. How do you start and check in and where do we go? I see nothing in the OP about it. Thank you. Its in the OP http://www.justin.tv/catreina (to chat you must have a Justin.TV account Check in is at 10 PM EST, Just go to the link and Confirm that you are playing. You can also message Catrina In game to check in. Edit: Direct Link. | ||
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Fisher
United States119 Posts
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SiguR
Canada2039 Posts
Edit: Found it on page 40... Might help to have it in the OP. http://binarybeast.com/xSC21008012 | ||
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Grimjim
United States395 Posts
-Edit- Oh, it's right above me. | ||
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Grimjim
United States395 Posts
Lol | ||
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Catreina
United States304 Posts
>> I have to withdraw, emergency here and won't be attending sorry. replaced with Roman.649 | ||
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JiSu
Korea (South)140 Posts
Loser sends you guys an email with replays? | ||
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xJaCEx
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Mikilatov
United States3897 Posts
It's ridiculous that you have to go to page 40 of a 43 page thread to see the bracket, and also climb through all of it to understand how to 'check-in', or report game results, etc. Just add it to the damn OP? | ||
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Catreina
United States304 Posts
Yes, you can checkin/report via email, but not until 10PM EDT | ||
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