EPTNow I'm not mad anymore. I just play this and realize that even if some tournament people think IdrA's lame, others think he's worth of his own dance game.
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quarkzebera
United States1 Post
Now I'm not mad anymore. I just play this and realize that even if some tournament people think IdrA's lame, others think he's worth of his own dance game. | ||
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Zumms
United States30 Posts
And btw, how was anyone supposed to know idra wasn't inviting the casters because of the "lag". He never actually told BigT. Idra getting banned is just result in lack of communication between the players and the admins. | ||
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sleepingdog
Austria6145 Posts
IdrA may or may not have been an ass; everybody defending ESL or accusing IdrA should realize that this simply does not matter; everything that does matter is that IdrA's ban was purely arbitrary, just because somebody between dinner and bedtime decided "it was enough"; it's extremely obvious that the decision was made based on mere bias and repugnance and that afterwards they had to come up with "something" that justifies the decision following the rules this is a perfect example why esports is still being ridiculed in the western hemisphere; no professionalism whatsoever, it's like if teenagers were organizing a charity soccer tournament | ||
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TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
On August 16 2010 18:22 Zumms wrote: BigT's casting isn't bad at all. And when you say his casting is bad are you just trying to insult the guy or do you actually have someone to compare him to to show that he is actually a bad caster? And btw, how was anyone supposed to know idra wasn't inviting the casters because of the "lag". He never actually told BigT. Idra getting banned is just result in lack of communication between the players and the admins. While I havent heard BigT's casting, you do realize that there are a LOT of casters out there to compare him to, right? Also, I am pretty sure BigT and Idra had a conversation about inviting him. | ||
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Piski
Finland3461 Posts
But seriously ESL should really thing about this. You have said that IdrA should have been banned long time ago but you can't just add PP to him just to cover your own mistakes. How can you even say that what you are doing is right. You are like a little child who did something wrong and now you are doing even worse things to cover that up. Just man up and admit your mistake and continue the games and nobody will remember this in couple of weeks. Continue and you got yourself a real shitstorm | ||
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Zumms
United States30 Posts
On August 16 2010 18:28 TheRabidDeer wrote: While I havent heard BigT's casting, you do realize that there are a LOT of casters out there to compare him to, right? Also, I am pretty sure BigT and Idra had a conversation about inviting him. You have no idea what you are talking about first of all, BigT is the caster, BigT and Idra would not have a conversation about inviting "him". (I assume this is a typo) Yeah, I do realize there are alot of casters, you misread what I said. I asked if the people who are saying he is bad have someone that they like more to actually know if BigT is a bad caster. And from my point of view, he's just as good as everyone else. People are just insulting his casting because they are mad the Idra got banned, which wasn't at all BigT's fault nor did he ever suggest it. BigT was just wondering if he was going to cast Idra's game or not, and if Idra said no he was going to move on. But there was a problem, Beef (the admin) was trying to force Idra to let BigT cast. And BigT wasn't complaining to beef saying "omg let me cast idra dude wtf" or anything like that. | ||
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JPSke
United States54 Posts
1. Don't be a prick, or your reputation will precede you. 2. Organize in advance, because if you leave anything unsettled it will bite you in the ass. In the future tourney admins need to have the casting, the timing, and the rules clearly stated and ensure that their players are aware of them. 3. BigT needs to understand that his "jokes" infer a level of familiarity that most people he's conversing with don't have with him. This is especially true when you're operating in a text format, where something can be taken many different ways. He also needs to learn to keep some discussions private(especially with players and tournament organizers) rather than streaming what are ostensibly private conversations to his stream, often without the other party's knowledge. While I enjoyed seeing how haphazardly things are done today, you would be better served in the future by simply updating your status to the stream every so often and letting all the legwork of finding matches to cast go on behind the scenes. With that said your efforts are appreciated and your passion is great to see. | ||
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vyyye
Sweden3917 Posts
On August 16 2010 18:42 Zumms wrote: You have no idea what you are talking about first of all, BigT is the caster, BigT and Idra would not have a conversation about inviting "him". (I assume this is a typo) Yeah, I do realize there are alot of casters, you misread what I said. I asked if the people who are saying he is bad have someone that they like more to actually know if BigT is a bad caster. And from my point of view, he's just as good as everyone else. People are just insulting his casting because they are mad the Idra got banned, which wasn't at all BigT's fault nor did he ever suggest it. Do you seriously expect people here to never have heard any other caster other than BigT new to the 'scene' to say the least. | ||
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Sqq
Norway2023 Posts
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Zumms
United States30 Posts
On August 16 2010 18:46 vyyye wrote: You also are not paying attention to what I said. I know for a fact people know more casters than BigT. But his skills in casting are definitely on par with everyone else's, as far as I'm concerned.BigT is not the biggest, the first nor the most famous caster. Do you seriously expect people here to never have heard any other caster other than BigT who's been casting one or two tournaments in total? | ||
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vyyye
Sweden3917 Posts
On August 16 2010 18:49 Zumms wrote: You also are not paying attention to what I said. I know for a fact people know more casters than BigT. But his skills in casting are definitely on par with everyone else's, as far as I'm concerned. Your argument was "do you even know any other casters so you can judge him based on anything?", which is ridiculous. Yeah, which caster you like is preference but just like you approve of his casting there'll be people who thinks it's atrocious. It works both ways. | ||
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Xiphiasar
United States78 Posts
Well I'm glad this drama was concluded in time for bed.  Good night to all and good luck to IdrA in his coming matches. | ||
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greendestiny
Bosnia-Herzegovina114 Posts
The rules are: 1. Whoever sincerely apologizes first, is a bigger man and instantly wins. 2. If everybody involved apologizes to each other, rule #3 applies. 3. PARTY! Note: I saw BigT apologize 'to everyone'. That doesn't count, because you weren't mean to everyone, but to Idra. Also, glad to see Idra unbanned. And here is something sweet for you: http://www.livestream.com/tlchill/video?clipId=pla_8279dc78-9edb-4753-b7fd-23d27baf94c6 19:10-19:38 But I don't think this is gonna do much damage - we will have to see. This is really neat, though, it's really interesting, is he going to put down infested terrans or is he going to wait for him to move out. Both would be really cool, if he waits for him to push out and then does it, it could do a lot more damage... FUNGAL FUNGAL OH MY GOD! So nice, it takes 3 to kill that. Only 2 fungals and an infested terran, whaaa... OH MY GOD!!!! It only takes 2 fungals to kill them? HOLY SHIT! I can't believe that worked. | ||
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Trepanation
United States111 Posts
On August 16 2010 18:22 Zumms wrote: BigT's casting isn't bad at all. And when you say his casting is bad are you just trying to insult the guy or do you actually have someone to compare him to to show that he is actually a bad caster? And btw, how was anyone supposed to know idra wasn't inviting the casters because of the "lag". He never actually told BigT. Idra getting banned is just result in lack of communication between the players and the admins. His casting isn't all the bad huh...watching chill commentary over bigt was just enough to show how bad his casting is. The majority of when bigt is casting is just mindless chatter of what we can already see whats going on we don't need a play by play of drones being produced. Oh Who can forget the many times during the stream where he fails to keep the camera on whats going on or any important tech that's currently going up.Or is the amount of bullshit he is able to fill the hours of commentary as he acts like he knows what he is talking about. Curious is it that he hit low rank diamond therefor he knows all about starcraft2 to give people commentary of it? | ||
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Kantutan
Canada1319 Posts
On August 16 2010 18:53 Xiphiasar wrote: BigT is a bad caster. Wait nono, I was just joking, being facetious! Well I'm glad this drama was concluded in time for bed. Good night to all and good luck to IdrA in his coming matches.I would say best comment of the day, but there were too many good comments in this thread. Guy likes his word facetious. | ||
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Kantutan
Canada1319 Posts
On August 16 2010 19:00 Trepanation wrote: His casting isn't all the bad huh...watching chill commentary over bigt was just enough to show how bad his casting is. The majority of when bigt is casting is just mindless chatter of what we can already see whats going on we don't need a play by play of drones being produced. Oh Who can forget the many times during the stream where he fails to keep the camera on whats going on or any important tech that's currently going up.Or is the amount of bullshit he is able to fill the hours of commentary as he acts like he knows what he is talking about. Curious is it that he hit low rank diamond therefor he knows all about starcraft2 to give people commentary of it? Yeah, I loaded up the VODs of the BiggerT stream and in the first minute it was him rambling on some pointless drivel about a marine requiring a medic. I didn't get much further than that, personally I would prefer not to have a voice in the background ruining Chill's commentary. I know he probably set up hundreds of nice jabs for Chill, but it got in the way too much :< | ||
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Zumms
United States30 Posts
On August 16 2010 19:00 Trepanation wrote: It's just an opinion thing for the most part. But what I was saying (or attempted to say) is don't say he is bad because your mad about the whole idra thing, but who cares.His casting isn't all the bad huh...watching chill commentary over bigt was just enough to show how bad his casting is. The majority of when bigt is casting is just mindless chatter of what we can already see whats going on we don't need a play by play of drones being produced. Oh Who can forget the many times during the stream where he fails to keep the camera on whats going on or any important tech that's currently going up.Or is the amount of bullshit he is able to fill the hours of commentary as he acts like he knows what he is talking about. Curious is it that he hit low rank diamond therefor he knows all about starcraft2 to give people commentary of it? | ||
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TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
On August 16 2010 18:42 Zumms wrote: You have no idea what you are talking about first of all, BigT is the caster, BigT and Idra would not have a conversation about inviting "him". (I assume this is a typo) Yeah, I do realize there are alot of casters, you misread what I said. I asked if the people who are saying he is bad have someone that they like more to actually know if BigT is a bad caster. And from my point of view, he's just as good as everyone else. People are just insulting his casting because they are mad the Idra got banned, which wasn't at all BigT's fault nor did he ever suggest it. BigT was just wondering if he was going to cast Idra's game or not, and if Idra said no he was going to move on. But there was a problem, Beef (the admin) was trying to force Idra to let BigT cast. And BigT wasn't complaining to beef saying "omg let me cast idra dude wtf" or anything like that. I am confused. BigT and Idra clearly had a conversation since Idra had at some point told him (BigT) that he lags and doesnt want him to cast his games. Also, it is apparently BigT's fault for Idra getting banned, considering he said: "[ 12:29:16 ] [ BigT ] he received 2 points for not allowing me to cast and the other 2 points for the BM afterwards... all of which were handed down directly from me :D" Even if it wasnt serious, he is at least partially responsible considering Idra got a 2 point penalty for not letting him cast. It is BigT's responsibility to inform the admins of the situation (that is to say, "I lag and can not cast Idra's game), not just say "am I casting or not?" Honestly, did you join TL just to play devils advocate on the situation or something? The point you try to make about people possibly not knowing other casters to compare to BigT reeks of something that is not normal. Maybe you are BigT yourself? | ||
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Trepanation
United States111 Posts
On August 16 2010 19:13 Zumms wrote: It's just an opinion thing for the most part. But what I was saying (or attempted to say) is don't say he is bad because your mad about the whole idra thing, but who cares. Yea i pointed some bad points of his casting because Im mad bro.But who cares!! you made a account to defend bigt to the death no matter how flawed your argument is. | ||
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Pobbes
Philippines54 Posts
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