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hydraden
Profile Joined April 2010
United States719 Posts
May 26 2010 14:13 GMT
#2301
On May 26 2010 23:11 Chriamon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2010 23:07 hydraden wrote:

Obviously, TvZ in SC2 is more imba than it in BW.

No, F91 played the same basic strategy every game, not once using infestors, nydus, Blords etc. F91 was playing like the only Z units are roach muta ling/bling.


Do you think the game ever get to the point of infestors and blords?
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
May 26 2010 14:14 GMT
#2302
So, who plays who in semifinals?
Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
May 26 2010 14:15 GMT
#2303
F91 getting brutally violated after the first game, i guess the battlecruiser rush in the first game was just maka toying with him...
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-26 14:16:51
May 26 2010 14:15 GMT
#2304
On May 26 2010 23:12 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2010 23:04 Azarkon wrote:
That's a good point. Maybe lag is a far bigger problem for Protoss than it is for Zerg and Terran.

EDIT: It is fully possible that Asian Terrans (except for people like Maka) and Protoss aren't up to par with the Zerg counterparts. I again reiterate my desire to see more US Protoss players in these tournaments

lol
american p's would get buttfucked unless nonys started practicing
i think spunky got knocked out by a ling allin in groups and tester got a massive disadvantage early and then got caught with his army out in the middle vs haypro. he made alot of mistakes and deserved to lose, but it wasnt really a game to judge him by. whitera and the top korean p's are capable of doing just fine.


Maybe they would, and I admit that White-Ra is probably the best Protoss player in the foreigner scene, but still, everyone should be given a chance

And yea, if only Nony would start practicing again, but life is life.
tubs
Profile Joined March 2010
764 Posts
May 26 2010 14:17 GMT
#2305
Stop screaming imba you nubs. Maka's TvZ is probably his strongest matchup, and he hardly ever loses against zerg. Sen, on the other hand, is super strong in ZvT. Sen dominates any T he comes across.

Sometimes it's the player and not the race that is overpowered.
"Roach dies to immortal and rockit black guy" - Tierdal.thex
Prodtoss
Profile Joined May 2010
China849 Posts
May 26 2010 14:19 GMT
#2306
On May 26 2010 23:14 cyclone25 wrote:
So, who plays who in semifinals?


+ Show Spoiler +
Check vs Dimaga

Cool vs Maka
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3397 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-26 14:29:40
May 26 2010 14:21 GMT
#2307
I dont think many people are crying imbalance -- its just sort of obvious that people are approaching the matchup incorrectly by going roach+hydra+ling. You have to be creative. Sen does that (see ventral sac drop game on LT) and so does TLO (mass infestor game 2 versus Loner).
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-26 14:24:02
May 26 2010 14:23 GMT
#2308
Well, TBH, I'm just glad it won't be a ZvZ semifinal. Would've liked to see Newlife advance but if his macro play isn't up to par, then it's probably good that he didn't anyhow.
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3397 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-26 14:48:45
May 26 2010 14:24 GMT
#2309
On May 26 2010 23:12 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2010 23:04 Azarkon wrote:
That's a good point. Maybe lag is a far bigger problem for Protoss than it is for Zerg and Terran.

EDIT: It is fully possible that Asian Terrans (except for people like Maka) and Protoss aren't up to par with the Zerg counterparts. I again reiterate my desire to see more US Protoss players in these tournaments

lol
american p's would get buttfucked unless nonys started practicing
i think spunky got knocked out by a ling allin in groups and tester got a massive disadvantage early and then got caught with his army out in the middle vs haypro. he made alot of mistakes and deserved to lose, but it wasnt really a game to judge him by. whitera and the top korean p's are capable of doing just fine.


Which top Korean Ps? Based on plu.cn and 17173 (which is short sighted, I know) Im not seeing many strong asian toss. Interested in seeing tester this weekend at TLI tho.

for example -- I dont feel like xiaot is any stronger than haypro or hasuobs (when hes playing well).

Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
rhap
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil136 Posts
May 26 2010 14:41 GMT
#2310
I hope for DIMAGA vs Maka in the finals, but idk, anything could happen.
Samurai-
Profile Joined May 2008
Slovenia2035 Posts
May 26 2010 15:02 GMT
#2311
so the history repeats itself, koreans > rest .
One ring, to rule them all!
rlagksquf
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand153 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-26 15:05:37
May 26 2010 15:05 GMT
#2312
yea when all the korean sc1 progamers move to sc2 its gg
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-26 15:10:12
May 26 2010 15:09 GMT
#2313
Not yet. Dimaga is still in the running

And besides, it's not even out of Beta, yet, meaning that most of the people playing professionally now are former pro-gamers, and in that arena Korea has a definite advantage. We'll see how the scene evolves once the game is actually released and more foreigner teams are established.
hydraden
Profile Joined April 2010
United States719 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-26 15:11:13
May 26 2010 15:09 GMT
#2314
On May 26 2010 23:17 tubs wrote:
Stop screaming imba you nubs. Maka's TvZ is probably his strongest matchup, and he hardly ever loses against zerg. Sen, on the other hand, is super strong in ZvT. Sen dominates any T he comes across.

Sometimes it's the player and not the race that is overpowered.


But which Terran did sen win?
Demuslim and TLO, do you really think they are at the same level as top Koreans?
The best Sen can do against Maka is winning 1 game in BO5.


Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
May 26 2010 15:13 GMT
#2315
which is sad.. cause Sen is arguably top ~2 zerg in the world, with Check.. and is no match for Maka

Maka should have this tournament in the bag, unless he decides to almost throw it away again like vs F91 (battlecruiser rush into mass tank/marauder vs mutas? gw)
Canada Gaming ~~ The-Feared
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3397 Posts
May 26 2010 15:16 GMT
#2316
I definitely feel like DeMuslim (on a good day) and TLOs terran are comparable to maka or dayfly. Just look at TLO 4-0 freedom and 2-0 Loner recently. I also dont feel like Check is even close to no2 zerg in the world.

Doesnt TLO play Sen in plu.cn in a day or two? That will reveal a lot.
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
Prodtoss
Profile Joined May 2010
China849 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-26 15:17:38
May 26 2010 15:17 GMT
#2317
Maka vs Cool on 17173showmatch is 3-3,let's looking forward the epic semi-final

Go over the showmatch on patch-11
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=120295
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-26 15:18:08
May 26 2010 15:17 GMT
#2318
On May 27 2010 00:13 Skyze wrote:
which is sad.. cause Sen is arguably top ~2 zerg in the world, with Check.. and is no match for Maka

Maka should have this tournament in the bag, unless he decides to almost throw it away again like vs F91 (battlecruiser rush into mass tank/marauder vs mutas? gw)


... When did Sen play Maka? Oh, never? Ok then, just checking.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
lolreaper
Profile Joined April 2010
301 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-26 15:19:42
May 26 2010 15:17 GMT
#2319
On May 27 2010 00:13 Skyze wrote:
which is sad.. cause Sen is arguably top ~2 zerg in the world, with Check.. and is no match for Maka

Maka should have this tournament in the bag, unless he decides to almost throw it away again like vs F91 (battlecruiser rush into mass tank/marauder vs mutas? gw)


wtf are you talking about, sen and maka didnt play so how can u make assumptions about something which didnt happen and check isnt best zerg where do u get this bs from lol
koppik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States676 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-26 15:20:20
May 26 2010 15:18 GMT
#2320
"Pesticide" Maka manages to win one for the non-Z! If anyone can challenge the dominance of Asian zergs, it's Maka.

Also, BCRUSH. Maka is like the most BM player ever.
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