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frumplejoon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States129 Posts
May 26 2010 13:55 GMT
#2281
2-1 maka
ZGeer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States87 Posts
May 26 2010 13:55 GMT
#2282
2-1 Maka
hydraden
Profile Joined April 2010
United States719 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-26 13:56:55
May 26 2010 13:55 GMT
#2283
I think F91 should not go for 3rd expo that early.
His army count is too low.

In these 3 games, it seems that he is always trying for an econ game.
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3507 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-26 13:56:57
May 26 2010 13:55 GMT
#2284
2-1 for maka. game 4 starting now.

Maka is just beating up on him so far -- game 1 was just a ton of mistakes by maka, 2 and 3 have been super standard mech play on 1v1 maps.
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
kheldorin
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore539 Posts
May 26 2010 13:56 GMT
#2285
lol outdated football figurines. Thiery Henry isn't at Arsenal anymore. Must be fake >.>
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
May 26 2010 13:56 GMT
#2286
On May 26 2010 22:51 Hesmyrr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2010 22:48 Skyze wrote:
its sad people are gonna use the excuse "well 3 zergs made it to the semi finals in this tourney".. but the reality is, those zerg players are just top notch players, who would be there regardless of race.

Maka will probably win the tournament anyways.

shhhhh I want Koreans to dominate without sounding like racist.


And you call yourself Canadian?

More seriously, ZvT might involve some imbalance but I think it is still possible to win. You just have to have crisp execution and exploit the fact that Zerg can tech switch relatively fast. It seems that the perfect Terran composition is nearly impossible to deal with without either some sort of trick (ie burrowed banelings/roaches) or much better macro. Maka is close to being undefeated TvZ, however. So we'll see how well he does in the finals against the world's best Zergs.
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3507 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-26 13:59:27
May 26 2010 13:58 GMT
#2287
I think good use of nydas andor ventral sacs and burrow is key to winning ZvT and most players just arent super comfortable with that yet. (at least I know Im not! heh)

Although I think this spawn on metalopolis is great for f91. Lets see what he can do.
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-26 14:03:53
May 26 2010 14:02 GMT
#2288
On May 26 2010 22:58 Gescom wrote:
I think good use of nydas andor ventral sacs and burrow is key to winning ZvT and most players just arent super comfortable with that yet. (at least I know Im not! heh)


Possibly.

What I'm really surprised though is that all the Protoss players in this tournament were relatively easily eliminated. Newlife went the furthest with his Naniwa-style play, but no Protoss - not even White-Ra or Tester - have generally been able to stand up to Zerg.

Maybe Asian Protoss players really are behind their Zerg and Terran counterparts. I'd love to have seen players like Huk play in this tournament, just to see whether they'll be able to deal with this kind of play.
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3507 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-26 14:06:16
May 26 2010 14:03 GMT
#2289
I think white-ra would have no problem against most of these zergs (maybe all except sen) on his better days. He played really badly (he did complain a bit of lag) against f91.

And just for the sake of argument -- Im currently in diamond league on asia servers and I feel like I have a lot less trouble against P and T than I did on US. I usually lose ZvZ though. :shrug:
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-26 14:07:52
May 26 2010 14:04 GMT
#2290
That's a good point. Maybe lag is a far bigger problem for Protoss than it is for Zerg and Terran.

EDIT: It is fully possible that Asian Terrans (except for people like Maka) and Protoss aren't up to par with the Zerg counterparts. I again reiterate my desire to see more US Protoss players in these tournaments
hydraden
Profile Joined April 2010
United States719 Posts
May 26 2010 14:07 GMT
#2291

Obviously, TvZ in SC2 is more imba than it in BW.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
May 26 2010 14:09 GMT
#2292
lol @ that mules :D:D
zurg
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
1923 Posts
May 26 2010 14:09 GMT
#2293
lol wtf dropping mules @zergs base
우리는 대-한민국입니다
frumplejoon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States129 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-26 14:10:25
May 26 2010 14:10 GMT
#2294
wooo makamaka

and manner mules
lolreaper
Profile Joined April 2010
301 Posts
May 26 2010 14:10 GMT
#2295
lol f91 loses lots of mining time and drones to 1 hellion every game because he refueses to build few lings and people are surprised he lost ...
ZGeer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States87 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-26 14:10:58
May 26 2010 14:10 GMT
#2296
I've seen him do that MULE drop in enemy base after hes won a few times now. Maka so mean TT
Chriamon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States886 Posts
May 26 2010 14:11 GMT
#2297
On May 26 2010 23:07 hydraden wrote:

Obviously, TvZ in SC2 is more imba than it in BW.

No, F91 played the same basic strategy every game, not once using infestors, nydus, Blords etc. F91 was playing like the only Z units are roach muta ling/bling.
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/274906/1/Blaze/
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
May 26 2010 14:12 GMT
#2298
On May 26 2010 23:04 Azarkon wrote:
That's a good point. Maybe lag is a far bigger problem for Protoss than it is for Zerg and Terran.

EDIT: It is fully possible that Asian Terrans (except for people like Maka) and Protoss aren't up to par with the Zerg counterparts. I again reiterate my desire to see more US Protoss players in these tournaments

lol
american p's would get buttfucked unless nonys started practicing
i think spunky got knocked out by a ling allin in groups and tester got a massive disadvantage early and then got caught with his army out in the middle vs haypro. he made alot of mistakes and deserved to lose, but it wasnt really a game to judge him by. whitera and the top korean p's are capable of doing just fine.
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kheldorin
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore539 Posts
May 26 2010 14:12 GMT
#2299
lol @ Maka pwning with half his army with the rest at his base.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
May 26 2010 14:13 GMT
#2300
On May 26 2010 23:11 Chriamon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2010 23:07 hydraden wrote:

Obviously, TvZ in SC2 is more imba than it in BW.

No, F91 played the same basic strategy every game, not once using infestors, nydus, Blords etc. F91 was playing like the only Z units are roach muta ling/bling.

only thing out of those which could have worked is broodlords, check pulled out nice games with them lately, but his opponent wasn't maka so i don't know if it would've worked against him.
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