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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-24 15:56:02
May 24 2010 15:55 GMT
#2061
I feel like TLO really needs to settle on Terran and learn all the match-ups . Alot of his inconsistency comes from his weaker match-ups. His TvZ and TvT are beastly, but this loss against Protoss timings is quite probably due to inexperience in the match-up.
koppik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States676 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-24 16:14:03
May 24 2010 16:07 GMT
#2062
Other than cool, it sort of feels like the strongest zergs have already fallen in the tournament. I blame it on ZvZ.
On May 24 2010 23:33 Azarkon wrote:
EDIT: Also, lol @ PJ taking one game from Cool.
Judging from the series, it's more like the opposite. Other than the disastrous Blistering Sands game, PJ just straight outplayed Cool. Cool pulled off a win in the third game despite having a vastly inferior army by going for a base trade and laying baneling "mines" all over the map.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-24 16:46:56
May 24 2010 16:46 GMT
#2063
On May 25 2010 01:07 koppik wrote:
Other than cool, it sort of feels like the strongest zergs have already fallen in the tournament. I blame it on ZvZ.
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2010 23:33 Azarkon wrote:
EDIT: Also, lol @ PJ taking one game from Cool.
Judging from the series, it's more like the opposite. Other than the disastrous Blistering Sands game, PJ just straight outplayed Cool. Cool pulled off a win in the third game despite having a vastly inferior army by going for a base trade and laying baneling "mines" all over the map.


Which is pretty awesome in and of itself, you must admit. Still, I agree with you on the PJ vs. Cool match. It seems that the top Zergs are having huge trouble in ZvT and ZvP. Probably too much ZvZ practice
PROJECTILE
Profile Joined April 2010
United States226 Posts
May 24 2010 17:04 GMT
#2064
I'm not sure how good TLO's tvp play is. The build he was using on game 2 was just awful, there's a reason every good TvPer techs to starport early on (whether rax-fac-port, rax-rax-fac-port, or rax-fac-rax-port) and plays off of one base.
Prodtoss
Profile Joined May 2010
China849 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-24 17:14:51
May 24 2010 17:11 GMT
#2065
On May 25 2010 02:04 PROJECTILE wrote:
I'm not sure how good TLO's tvp play is. The build he was using on game 2 was just awful, there's a reason every good TvPer techs to starport early on (whether rax-fac-port, rax-rax-fac-port, or rax-fac-rax-port) and plays off of one base.


ya,and TLO choose SOW but build early 2nd command center,I can't understand him:0

early expan on SOW is hard due to de short distance between to bases
PROJECTILE
Profile Joined April 2010
United States226 Posts
May 24 2010 17:20 GMT
#2066
On May 25 2010 02:11 Prodtoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2010 02:04 PROJECTILE wrote:
I'm not sure how good TLO's tvp play is. The build he was using on game 2 was just awful, there's a reason every good TvPer techs to starport early on (whether rax-fac-port, rax-rax-fac-port, or rax-fac-rax-port) and plays off of one base.


ya,and TLO choose SOW but build early 2nd command center,I can't understand him:0

early expan on SOW is hard due to de short distance between to bases

I tend to hate early expand on any map tvp. The normal advantage you get from being able to reinforce more quickly on defense is largely negated against protoss. There's just too many ways for a toss to abuse any FE build.
epik640x
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1134 Posts
May 24 2010 18:44 GMT
#2067
Great job keeping 1st page updated with results and commentary!
Three
Profile Joined April 2010
Japan278 Posts
May 24 2010 18:51 GMT
#2068
TLO is so impressive vs zerg and terran... he really needs to work on playing against protoss.

There isn't as much reward for creativity in that matchup though
j4vz
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada976 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-24 19:42:11
May 24 2010 19:40 GMT
#2069
i was so sad this morning (around 4AM) TLO lost, now i woke up and WhiteRa Lost...

GO DIMAGA !!!!!
someone_elses_lies@live.fr
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
May 24 2010 19:49 GMT
#2070
pretty strong korean lineup left. Check, maka, rainbow, and cool. Totally sucks TLO and white-ra are out but shit happens. Would really like to see cool and rainbow in the finals
littleroc2nd
Profile Joined May 2010
China4 Posts
May 24 2010 20:31 GMT
#2071
when TLO dicided to have a quick 2nd base beginning without mass bunkers & marines , he's already lost his chance, any pro P can beat him if he did that
Three
Profile Joined April 2010
Japan278 Posts
May 24 2010 21:12 GMT
#2072
I think Newlife is a step above Whitera atm.. mainly because whitera seems to be stuck on that fast expand build.
epik640x
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1134 Posts
May 24 2010 23:12 GMT
#2073
Man, what a competitive field of 8 left. All 8 could have seriously challenged for the HDH 1st place.
MurMur
Profile Joined May 2010
United States46 Posts
May 25 2010 07:05 GMT
#2074
is there a match or two coming up at 20:30 KST?
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
May 25 2010 07:20 GMT
#2075
On May 25 2010 06:12 Three wrote:
I think Newlife is a step above Whitera atm.. mainly because whitera seems to be stuck on that fast expand build.

whitera is way, way better than newlife
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Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3511 Posts
May 25 2010 07:28 GMT
#2076
Yeah -- people should really stop making generalizations based on single bo3s. =/
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
koshka
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany181 Posts
May 25 2010 07:47 GMT
#2077
On May 25 2010 16:28 Gescom wrote:
Yeah -- people should really stop making generalizations based on single bo3s. =/


+ someone posted earlier that he was probably still drunk because of the hdh.. but that's just an assumption and should in no way be considered a fact :D
koshka
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany181 Posts
May 25 2010 07:49 GMT
#2078
On May 25 2010 16:20 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2010 06:12 Three wrote:
I think Newlife is a step above Whitera atm.. mainly because whitera seems to be stuck on that fast expand build.

whitera is way, way better than newlife


he could crush newlife face anytime
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-25 07:59:46
May 25 2010 07:58 GMT
#2079
Nevermind.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-25 08:04:36
May 25 2010 08:03 GMT
#2080
On May 24 2010 17:48 TBO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2010 17:46 Saracen wrote:
chinese commentators calling TLO a noobie lol...


Nice of them :o


Show nested quote +
On May 24 2010 17:48 GTR wrote:
can't fast expand on a map like Steppes especially against a timing-based player like Newlife.


Usually TLO keeps the CC as wall longer but playing so early in the day isn't very helpful for decision making :/


They called him Niu B = Gosu.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
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