The SKT Anti-Mech Ultra Queen Timing Attack

On August 10 2015 22:36 AbouSV wrote:
Thanks for the report and quick explanation. I noted this also.

One problem though, is that if this becomes too popular, terran will do more mech-based timing push that hurt soooo much (with a few SCVs pulled) T.T

(Edit: typo)

People are so focused on the late game mech that they forget that mech has multiple vulnerable spots before the late game.

On August 11 2015 01:42 00Zarathustra wrote:
Ok but this doesn't consider that Fantasy miss-read Soo, moved out and got caught out of position. If he would just be turtling and positioning behind a strong wall he might have defended the push.

soO remaxes on 43 mutalisks to check mate Fantasy, whom on 3 bases cannot effectively make enough anti air to defend against them

On August 11 2015 19:03 Isarios wrote:
Your first imgur of the mech build winning was AMAZING. really good information great break down of scouting.

Your second on the counter build was confusing and I did not get as much out of it. I don't play zerg very well, but it would have been nice to add how he played the midgame and what he did to get good engagements.

On August 11 2015 20:15 EJK wrote:

all he did in mid game was add a 3rd evo, skip roach hydra production, and make ultra and queens. Then for a good engagement, he just spread out his units a little bit then attack moved after blinding cloud. There's not much more left to say I think

On August 10 2015 23:07 EJK wrote:

and thus the meta game is made

On August 11 2015 20:33 Isarios wrote:


You said something about muta opening. How did he scout? What and how much did he use to fend off small pokes?

Again, scouting and other things are great to explain. Things you may think are obvious are not for lesser skilled players.

On August 11 2015 22:16 EJK wrote:

He made 6 or 8 roaches with roach speed. I couldn't read the number in the VOD coz I had to use a lower quality.

I imagine having a number of queens at one base (say soO's 4th base on coda) and roaches towards the 3rd and natural area will cover your bases against hellions. Then, before you attack, add a couple spines at each base to secure the location after the roaches and queens move out of position

The problem with explaining everything is that then it becomes a comprehensive breakdown for every single decision made in that game. I agree breaking things down for lesser skilled players is a good thing, but the time commitment for both me and the reader is a tough line to balance

On August 11 2015 21:51 AbouSV wrote:


It is not just made, it evolves (sounds pretty serious written this way!).

Just that I prefer turtleling terran compare to mech timing push, but again, that is mainly because I don't know how to scoot for it since it is not much in the meta yet.

On August 12 2015 05:42 HellHound wrote:

I am 100% sure that this build will rape the shit out of a timing push tho :D
You float a fuckton have the tech and upgrades to spam roach hydra or mass muta it's much more dangerous than just the ultra timing itself

On August 12 2015 17:48 Cascade wrote:
Nice battle reports, thanks.

So the main difference is that soos pushes did more damage (because of the queens?), and he got upgrades for his air earlier?

On August 15 2015 04:12 Juggernaut1 wrote:
Thank you for posting this, i can now wreck terrans late game with that composition if they want to turtle in their base forever. I like it for delaying or killing their 4th base and having a better cost efficient army vs the mech. As zerg players know its not that 1st wave that wins you the game, you just need a decent trade then remax and win! Im still scared of mass raven tho =(