EPT[G] The Great Book of Protoss Bullshit - Page 24
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FinestHour
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InfCereal
Canada1759 Posts
On August 05 2014 07:22 FinestHour wrote: hey can anyone make a great book of bs for terran and zerg next No, zerg is the gentleman's race. They have no bullshit. | ||
Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
On August 05 2014 09:04 InfCereal wrote: No, zerg is the gentleman's race. They have no bullshit. Except for swarmhosts, infestors, banelings and vipers. | ||
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EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
On August 05 2014 12:58 Whitewing wrote: Except for swarmhosts, infestors, banelings and vipers. Wow, I'm amazed you left the mutalisk out of that. I think the majority of people would place mutas above even banelings and vipers. Also, as far as making a great book of BS for Terran or Zerg, I just don't see how it's possible. Zerg and Terran have a few all-ins, but for the most part, they are not nearly as effective as the Protoss all-ins. All of the builds in this guide have a fairly high success rate even if they get scouted, just because Protoss. For the other races, doing a roach/baneling all-in or some kind of 1-1-1 all-in is really a coinflip that relies on your opponent playing a certain amount of greed and not having the correct units or units in position to deal with it. By correlation, this means that all Protoss all-ins are purely skill-based compared to their Zerg and Terran counterparts. :p | ||
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SatedSC2
England3012 Posts
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LoneYoShi
France1348 Posts
If we search well, we could even find a few BS builds for terrans: 8-8-8, proxy Thor... and that's about it ^^ | ||
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-KG-
Denmark1203 Posts
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Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
On August 05 2014 16:52 SC2John wrote: Wow, I'm amazed you left the mutalisk out of that. I think the majority of people would place mutas above even banelings and vipers. Also, as far as making a great book of BS for Terran or Zerg, I just don't see how it's possible. Zerg and Terran have a few all-ins, but for the most part, they are not nearly as effective as the Protoss all-ins. All of the builds in this guide have a fairly high success rate even if they get scouted, just because Protoss. For the other races, doing a roach/baneling all-in or some kind of 1-1-1 all-in is really a coinflip that relies on your opponent playing a certain amount of greed and not having the correct units or units in position to deal with it. By correlation, this means that all Protoss all-ins are purely skill-based compared to their Zerg and Terran counterparts. :p I left mutas off the list because they're so obscene they're too nuts to classify as mere bullshit. | ||
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Universum
Canada192 Posts
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EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
On August 14 2014 13:02 Universum wrote: What's up with early zerglings on 4 player maps recently ? In my last 30 games vs Z most of them opened fast zergling vs my in base (not at ramp) gateway for the san Gate Build xD. It's a little harder to pull off ... Effort vs Classic and sOs. | ||
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Universum
Canada192 Posts
Thanks ! I'll try to find vods. | ||
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MidnightZL
Sweden203 Posts
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[PkF] Wire
France24192 Posts
On August 17 2014 08:51 MidnightZL wrote: I really dont know what you wanna accomplish by this post, it's boggling my mind, you seem to be so against protoss and then you still embrace the cheese since you obviously want everyone to play it..... Maybe you just wanted to be funny, but that failed bigtime also.. just my opinium. Check the date it was written on. I agree it was not especially funny because most of the builds here actually work, but it's not to be taken too seriously. | ||
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brickrd
United States4894 Posts
On August 17 2014 08:51 MidnightZL wrote: I really dont know what you wanna accomplish by this post, it's boggling my mind, you seem to be so against protoss and then you still embrace the cheese since you obviously want everyone to play it..... Maybe you just wanted to be funny, but that failed bigtime also.. just my opinium. lots of romanian expats in sweden i see | ||
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drunkelf
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Gaskal
Canada241 Posts
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Socup
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The largest issue here, being, of course, the ease as buying units, since the cost strucure of units is almost completely the same as it was in Brood War. Marines, zerglings, dragoons, stalkers, zealots, etc. It's a lot easier to buy those stalkers which have better pathing, extra abilities, and so on in SC2 than it is to buy goons in SC1. As long as the cost structure of units takes so much advantage from the "new and improved 'macro' mechanic" of SC2, things will be stale and the Protoss will have this "book of bullshit". Protoss can FE, poke, and be immune to early game attack or retaliation from Terran, and Zerg to a lesser extent. The game doesn't feel dynamic and strategic, they make it feel like Checkers or Tic tac Toe. Where's the spectator FUN in watching people do no attacks early game or watching the same zealot/stalker/MSC poke every single game where it doesn't really do anything if the other player beats them off, while both of them FE as "standard" and nothing happens for a few minutes because macro mechanics make grabbing bases far more important than trying to attack your opponent for the first 10 minutes? User was warned for this post for explaining why the Protoss book of bullshit exists and being on topic and I just have a bug up my ass User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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RaiZ
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On August 18 2014 07:32 Socup wrote: Zerg is largely immune to this because the hatches and injects being able to overdrone after shutting down an all in, or the fact that Zerg has closed the holes in the timings means that Protoss no longer even try vs Zerg, which means there's no making early units for Zerg to begin with. What ?... May I know what level are you ? Cauz I can guarantee you, you still see them in GM meaning it's still viable. | ||
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SatedSC2
England3012 Posts
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Teoita
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