EPTFrom me, if you scout terran going for gas before CC, don't go for this build. Also it's great to mix in in boX series.
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czaku
Poland429 Posts
From me, if you scout terran going for gas before CC, don't go for this build. Also it's great to mix in in boX series. | ||
Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On May 13 2013 19:52 roguff wrote: Why only Toss Guides ???? All Time here only Protoss or Zerg Guides. Wehre are the Terraner Guids here ??? Because there are protoss writers. Hard to write terran writeups without terran writers. | ||
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GodGranas
Germany5 Posts
If a terran scouts you and sees no Zealot, he would instandly build an E-bay and your entire build is gone. So this guide kinda sucks (in my oppinion. Show me pls if i am wrong) | ||
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chindy
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FetTerBender
Germany1393 Posts
For me personally it sometimes is difficult to maintain a correct Micro / Macro when i have to take care for a very precious unit (300//300 for warpgate + Oracle is a hefty early investment), alas sometimes i throw games with a miscontrolled Oracle... | ||
Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
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Clazziquai10
Singapore1949 Posts
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On May 13 2013 20:23 Clazziquai10 wrote: This only further highlights how toss can cut corners ridiculously early game and still be safe. (meanwhile, terran goes 14CC) | ||
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Mythal
Spain108 Posts
 . I love this new reveleation usage in PvT! | ||
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rsvp
United States2266 Posts
On May 13 2013 19:53 czaku wrote: Is it viable build for ladder? I feel like i would have not enough units to defend if terran goes for widow mine drop. From me, if you scout terran going for gas before CC, don't go for this build. Also it's great to mix in in boX series. You get a robo pretty fast with this build, so you'll have obs + nexus cannon by the time a widow mine drop hits (or maybe obs will be a few seconds late, but you should be able to minimize damage while having an oracle in their base). | ||
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rsvp
United States2266 Posts
On May 13 2013 20:06 GodGranas wrote: Sorry but this guide assume that the Terran does no all-ins (like 2 rax, proxy Rax,) and is not going to scout! If a terran scouts you and sees no Zealot, he would instandly build an E-bay and your entire build is gone. So this guide kinda sucks (in my oppinion. Show me pls if i am wrong) Are you talking about an ebay block at your natural? You can easily work in a zealot (which you can cancel if no block) into this build. Likewise, if you're afraid of proxy cheeses you can always scout for them and adjust your build accordingly. | ||
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Sumahi
Guam5609 Posts
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xAdra
Singapore1858 Posts
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Deleted User 135096
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Jornada
United States223 Posts
On May 13 2013 20:15 Teoita wrote: For the millionth time, these articles are supposed to be game analysis, not a proper, full on guide. LOL dude i was about to say the same thing. Sadly some in this community don't really "get it". I appreciate these write-ups because as a Master Protoss player i do have a hard time with Terran timing pushes because i barley start getting my eco running before i get a huge bio ball knocking at my front door, with a drop happening at my mineral line. This one i really appreciate because it actually made me realize i need to change up certain things in my build. Terran is really good in HotS (I am not calling them OP) so anything to help gain a slight advantage is good. Thanks again Teoita | ||
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TangSC
Canada1866 Posts
Also a nice write-up by Teoita, especially enjoyed the macro oracle opening. | ||
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IcookTacos
Sweden295 Posts
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XupinatoR
Spain125 Posts
On May 13 2013 20:23 Clazziquai10 wrote: This only further highlights how toss can cut corners ridiculously early game and still be safe. Yeah, basically what every other race could do in WoL and in HOTS we can do it now too. How unfair. | ||
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IPS.Blue
Germany309 Posts
On May 13 2013 19:22 Bahajinbo wrote: Absolutely amazing guide - I use Rains style almost exclusively in PvT. But I tend to skip the stargate tech. I think it's a bit of a gamble to delay double forge & colossus production and rely on the oracle to do damage. The positive thing I noticed in this particular game are the uses of revelation to spot every army movement of Flash. Still, I'm not sure if the stargate tech is a gamble or not if it doesn't do much damage. When you’re using the hallucinated phoenix the chances of the oracle surviving are very high. And afterwards scouting, drop defense and revelation can be so beneficial, that I don’t think the initial oracle attack has to do a lot of damage … | ||
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ImperialFist
790 Posts
People should believe in the early stargate, some people thinks it sets you behind but it really doesn't at all. Same thing with dts, it's strong tech that pays of just by having it. There is no coin-flip involved with somewhat proper execution. | ||
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