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Nadril
Profile Joined March 2012
68 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-13 14:19:26
May 13 2013 14:19 GMT
#61
And here I thought I was cool and unique by doing basically this build for my PvT. (except I like to get out 5-6 phoenix to deal with drops as well around the mid game, as well as deal with smaller groups of vikings in fights).

I honestly do almost the exact same opener, with gate+stargate+robo and everything.

I'll have to try out Rain's follow up though. Typically the 10 minute timing is super easy to hold, but the 3 base timing is really hard. I've been trying to do a 1 collo no range into storm transition (which has worked nicely, in my experience. [Mid-High masters])
FrozenProbe
Profile Joined March 2012
Italy276 Posts
May 13 2013 14:24 GMT
#62
Rain <3
RedArmorZero
Profile Joined January 2011
United States31 Posts
May 13 2013 14:26 GMT
#63
Really love it! amazing work as always TL

Thanks so much.
TR
Profile Joined February 2011
2320 Posts
May 13 2013 14:39 GMT
#64
Awesome stuff! Love it!
habermas
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom304 Posts
May 13 2013 14:39 GMT
#65
Great stuff.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
May 13 2013 14:58 GMT
#66
On May 13 2013 17:20 Teoita wrote:
No way blue backgrounds are only for the sexiest of them all.

Also lies, we are so not gonna write about races that aren't manly.


Protoss is the girly race.
If not, why do they like shiny things so much ?

=)
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Darthsanta13
Profile Joined July 2011
United States564 Posts
May 13 2013 15:11 GMT
#67
Yesss, yesterday I lost like six PvTs because my builds are so haphazard. I feel bad for the other races, not getting all these amazing strategy guides.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
May 13 2013 15:16 GMT
#68
On May 13 2013 23:58 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 17:20 Teoita wrote:
No way blue backgrounds are only for the sexiest of them all.

Also lies, we are so not gonna write about races that aren't manly.


Protoss is the girly race.
If not, why do they like shiny things so much ?

=)


Lies, LAZ0RZ are manly!
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Pazuzu
Profile Joined July 2011
United States632 Posts
May 13 2013 15:26 GMT
#69
On May 13 2013 17:17 Teoita wrote:
Hellyeah!


That's for sure. I love this new style/indepth review of games. Simultaneously super professional and still an exciting read (I missed the actual game). So pumped keep 'em coming!
"It is because intuition is sometimes right, that we don't know what to do with it"
Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
May 13 2013 15:45 GMT
#70
Also, if you liked this and missed some of our previous write-ups, you may want to check out our new Strategy Portal.
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Iron_
Profile Joined April 2010
United States389 Posts
May 13 2013 16:00 GMT
#71
Great write up here. WTB Terran content.
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3773 Posts
May 13 2013 16:03 GMT
#72
On May 13 2013 23:58 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 17:20 Teoita wrote:
No way blue backgrounds are only for the sexiest of them all.

Also lies, we are so not gonna write about races that aren't manly.


Protoss is the girly race.
If not, why do they like shiny things so much ?

=)

Dare to say that in the middle of Moscow? :>
ooDi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada170 Posts
May 13 2013 16:09 GMT
#73
why are some comments in blue??
"Believe you can and you're halfway there." @UR_ooDi www.twitch.tv/ooDi_sc
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3773 Posts
May 13 2013 16:16 GMT
#74
I believe in TL Strategy forum blue background indicates user that is recognized exeprt.
caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
May 13 2013 16:17 GMT
#75
This thread is TL Strategy forum perfection. Well done.
Salvation a la mode and a cup of tea...
l90 Proof
Profile Joined July 2010
64 Posts
May 13 2013 16:35 GMT
#76
For anyone interested, the Innovation-Rain game is the only free and English game linked in the OP.

Great article. Well done.
josemb40
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Peru611 Posts
May 13 2013 16:40 GMT
#77
nice writeup
wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
Baum
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1010 Posts
May 13 2013 16:42 GMT
#78
On May 13 2013 18:54 eneyeseekay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 18:42 Baum wrote:
I think this article should be mentioning Grubby rather than Mana and Feast since he is by far the biggest oracle user and has shown this in a lot of tournament games already.


Do you know of any particular Grubby games off the top of your head that I/we could check out? I've been dying to see some brilliant/aggressive Oracle play outside of the usual Oracle openings.


He uses them in the usual way but I think that he is very good at it. Grubby vs Lucifron in the Eizo Cup finals on Newkirk District: Grubby killed 6 SCVs and a good number of marines just with one stalker and one oracle. Grubby vs Polt during Dreamhack. I'm not sure but I think he used oracles vs Krass in his WCS games on Whirlwind.
I want to be with those who share secret things or else alone.
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
May 13 2013 16:52 GMT
#79
Do we need more guides for Protoss? Protoss is already so obvious dominated at the moment in SPL. Why we dont do more for the Terran?
Nuclease
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1049 Posts
May 13 2013 16:53 GMT
#80
BLARGH.

Just as I was trying to learn Terran, Protoss pulled me back in.
Zealots, not zee-lots. | Never forget, KTViolet, Go)Space. | You will never be as good as By.Flash, and your drops will never be as sick as MMA.
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