EPT[D] Gold to Platinum. Is this it? - Page 2
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GrassEater
Sweden417 Posts
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mantequilla
Turkey779 Posts
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Docta-thunder
United States52 Posts
The other thing to do is have fun! If your focus, primarily, is to have fun, you'll find it easy to stay motivated to play. If the secondary focus is to improve over time, you will. While playing =/= practicing, that doesn't mean that you can't improve by having fun playing. It's like playing in the sand box while your a kid. Studies show that childeen learn TONS while simply playing in a sand box. They learn social situations, the dynamics of the sand etc. school all over the world are switching to project based curriculums because they are fun. Having fun DOES encourage learning, and makes it easy to stay motivated. It's like the difference in how you feel excercising; playing basketball vs. running; they both get your heart rate up, but one is much more in than the other. So set basic goals, have fun, and try to recognize mistakes. Those are the bet ways to get better. GL; HF : ) | ||
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Dan26
Australia239 Posts
Well I play as much as I can around my part time study and part time job, and I try to play about 50 games a week. I want to first off say that I want to be a professional SC2 player. I know I have the tenacity, resilience and dedication required and I absolutely love the game. (Yes I would play 50+ hours a week with a balanced lifestyle) Secondly, I consider SC2 like that side-hobby that may or may not take off. I strongly believe masters is achievable with 50 games per week; if I feel like I'm up to par with the best one day, then hell, I'll develop myself further in that direction. Mechanics, micro, macro and strategy aside, the biggest factor to improvement in my view, by far, is resilience, the will to win, and to really read your opponent well. What I mean to say is once you hit this threshold everyone here has been talking about (solid macro, solid mechanics, decision making etc) and you get high platinum or diamond, you must play your opponent. Yes, follow a build or general strategy, but you need to adapt and have flexibility from what you read your opponent is doing. One more thing, playing competitively is painful sometimes; sometimes it's hard to swallow a loss, but the biggest reward is grinding through the losses, then getting that win you were looking for. Or recognizing you've improved dramatically in a short time of play. That's why I enjoy playing anyway :D I'm high platinum soon to be diamond : ) (Whoever said some diamond players are bad, you are sooo right lol) | ||
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ultrakiss
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Docta-thunder
United States52 Posts
On April 25 2013 22:22 Dan26 wrote: [b] Summarily I'll say that winning IS everything, but keep it in the context of improving your game, respecting your opponent and having fun. I like a lot that is your post, but do you think it would be fair to say that if your goal is to get better "improving" should be everything, instead of "winning"? | ||
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-VapidSlug-
United States108 Posts
On April 25 2013 13:09 Comogury wrote: I started out playing something like 200 games in bronze. After that, I played like 500+ games in gold and platinum combined before I got into diamond. After getting into diamond, masters was significantly less time consuming to get into. It took less than 200 games from diamond to masters for me. It was completely the opposite for me. I went from "high bronze" to top diamond very quickly in the first season. Then it took me about 8 more seasons of games to get through my glass ceiling into master's where I peaked at mid-level. To OP: I find it ok to not play all that much. In HotS, you chan use a few games in the unranked ladder to shake off the cobwebs before you put ranked MMR on the line. Compared to WoL, I think it will be easier to maintain your rank simply because of this. | ||
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shadymmj
1906 Posts
My personal belief is that solid macro can take you to masters. There were games that I could have won when masters league first opened, if only I had macroed slightly better. Which would have put me into that league. I still kind of regret that. Work on your macro and know when it is safe to expand. Supply blocks, not making workers, banking cash when not maxed - those are the worst mistakes possible to the non-retarded player looking to get promoted. Even at diamond level there are gaping holes in a player's macro, so there's always a great deal of room to improve. | ||
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rezzan
Sweden329 Posts
 ive played 13 games and then i hit platinum again :Dsecond, dont bother with other peoples games played, since ive seen alot of bronze-plat players that have 3000+ total ladder games played, and ive completely demolished them in the game ,and ive seen ppl that have 30-70 games played that have raped me lol, ( i am around 1100 games played myself) third, the way to play sc2 or to improve is this: Dont play to win,play to improve. Dont overthink games, for example: if you feel that your 3rd base took alot of dmg in a match and you had a hard time keeping it saturated or safe, look at the replay and see at what time your base is down,and look at your opponent and see if it actually was safe for you to squeeze out another 10 drones instead of those lings and stuff like that  thats how i got better. ALSO: platinum is the league where you meet people that has build orders,know decent micro/macro, its not impossible. but think of them as players that you shouldnt take for granted, yes? most of the time 2-3 pron attacks works sort of well, and you will DEFFO see multiple drops on your bases by terrans, so make sure you got proper map control and spine/spores in every base in good position and its all good ! Good luck | ||
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Savage88
Germany132 Posts
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TheSwagger
United States92 Posts
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iggym
United States49 Posts
OTOH, I also have been shooting up fast in MMR since that point, so it's probably most fair to say that everyone has plateaus, and that they're going to be at different spots depending on what you're good at. | ||
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arkedos
Germany1426 Posts
Of course every now and then even in Diamond I get opponents which I macro against the wall, but mainly it comes down to unit control. For example: in platinum it was enough against a P just to EMP everything you can, press stim and win. But in Diamond the toss wont let you EMP his important units like HTs or Sentries, Sou you wont get all HTs EMPed and there WILL be storms. So in addition to just EMPing you have to split your units so that 2-3 wont kill you. | ||
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Crofteh
United Kingdom36 Posts
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dzugaru
Russian Federation14 Posts
On April 25 2013 23:39 arkedos wrote: For example: in platinum it was enough against a P just to EMP everything you can, press stim and win. But in Diamond the toss wont let you EMP his important units like HTs or Sentries, Sou you wont get all HTs EMPed and there WILL be storms. So in addition to just EMPing you have to split your units so that 2-3 wont kill you. Personally never seen anyone who can EMP in low dia, and I don't know how to use storms at all. I just hotkey my HT on 2, make them follow my army in the back and when engagement occurs I click on the terran ball and wait forever since they are so slow and behind. And don't know any build, just some openings. Tried to hit benchmarks vs AI on MC's FFE air followup yesterday and couldn't get even relatively close. By my impression nobody around my level can macro for shit. Maybe its because of new players influx in season 1, and I'm gold level in fact. | ||
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arkedos
Germany1426 Posts
On April 25 2013 23:59 dzugaru wrote: Personally never seen anyone who can EMP in low dia, and I don't know how to use storms at all. I just hotkey my HT on 2, make them follow my army in the back and when engagement occurs I click on the terran ball and wait forever since they are so slow and behind. And don't know any build, just some openings. Tried to hit benchmarks vs AI on MC's FFE air followup yesterday and couldn't get even relatively close. By my impression nobody around my level can macro for shit. Maybe its because of new players influx in season 1, and I'm gold level in fact. I was talking about the gap between platinum and dia. For gold you are right. In gold you know just the openings but not the exact / precise follow ups to your opening, but the guys in high platinum / low dia definitely do know follow ups. That are my expieriences so far form the EU ladder. | ||
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
I started off in Silver and rapidly dropped to Bronze. There I languished for a while just screwing about. Then one season I decided I was going to improve and blasted out like a hundred games in a season with a focus on improvement. Next season I placed in Silver. Took some time off. Tried again after a couple of seasons, putting over a hundred games in. Season after that I placed Gold playing Golds/Silvers. Got stuck on Gold for a little while but eventually I started playing Platinums...and after a looooooong time of that I got promoted to Plat. Since then HotS has come out and I've only played about eight games, placing straight into Silver. But last night I started playing a couple of games again with a view to getting back to where I used to be and then improving again and I beat my first Diamond last night. | ||
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kyllinghest
Norway1607 Posts
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Statyk
Canada41 Posts
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dzugaru
Russian Federation14 Posts
On April 26 2013 00:19 arkedos wrote: I was talking about the gap between platinum and dia. For gold you are right. In gold you know just the openings but not the exact / precise follow ups to your opening, but the guys in high platinum / low dia definitely do know follow ups. That are my expieriences so far form the EU ladder. Well I was talking about low diamond too (I was in WoL for some time and now in season 1 HoTS). I guess its just league shifts and personal impressions. I barely can stand my own play, very hard to not facepalm every 30 secs. You (and anyone) can add me if you want some practice/roflstomps, I welcome custom games. Dzugaru#600 on EU. | ||
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