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Make sure you read the OP before asking a question. Asking a question already addressed in the OP will result in moderation action. Also, please put some effort into your questions. Do not just ask for build orders.
vhapter
Profile Joined May 2010
Brazil677 Posts
November 12 2014 15:09 GMT
#6121
I've noticed a hole in my mid game PvT recently.

My staple PvT is what Zest and CJherO were doing a couple of months ago - fast (2 colossi at 10 min) colossus + fast blink with 4 observers and double forge. I get 6 stalkers to deal with medivacs pushes initially and go up to 12 stalkers at about 12 minutes.

Question - how do I deal with doom drops once vikings are out (before I have high templar)? I need stalkers together with my colossi between my natural and third at this point. Should I warp in even more stalkers? Or stick to 12 stalkers and leave a handful of defensive zealotsin my main? Maybe something else?
To live is to fight, to fight is to live!
SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-12 15:48:47
November 12 2014 15:44 GMT
#6122
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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12248 Posts
November 12 2014 16:32 GMT
#6123
Yeah, more or less what sated said. There's some hilarious cannon rushing spots on every map too for PvZ.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
November 12 2014 17:34 GMT
#6124
On November 12 2014 11:14 Mozdk wrote:
What maps have you guys vetoed.

I'm gonna start of with Xel Naga. Just broken against Z. No reason to try.


XNC and to a lesser extent Metalopolis should be vetoed by every P because of PvZ. I'm less adamant as far as Metalo is concerned because you can still wall from Nexus quite well. Rest is personal choice, I vetoed Cloud Kingdom because as much as I love the map, I find the blur effect on it really annoying.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12248 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-12 17:43:33
November 12 2014 17:43 GMT
#6125
I may or may not be writing an article about breaking the current map pool with every race.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
November 12 2014 18:10 GMT
#6126
On November 13 2014 02:43 Teoita wrote:
I may or may not be writing an article about breaking the current map pool with every race.


I'm not sure that would be beneficial for everyone's ladder experience
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12248 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-12 18:15:41
November 12 2014 18:15 GMT
#6127
I'm totally doing it (or maybe not doing it!) so people can have a better idea of what might be coming their way and be better prepared. Totally. Right.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
November 12 2014 18:16 GMT
#6128
On November 13 2014 03:15 Teoita wrote:
I'm totally doing it (or maybe not doing it!) so people can have a better idea of what might be coming their way and be better prepared. Totally. Right.


Can't wait then ^^
SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
November 12 2014 18:36 GMT
#6129
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
November 12 2014 18:43 GMT
#6130
Hahaha, I almost forgot about that one
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-12 18:47:52
November 12 2014 18:47 GMT
#6131
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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12248 Posts
November 12 2014 19:01 GMT
#6132
On November 13 2014 03:36 SatedSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2014 01:32 Teoita wrote:
Yeah, more or less what sated said. There's some hilarious cannon rushing spots on every map too for PvZ.

That one Pylon + Cannon spot at the third on Cloud Kingdom...


Already included
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
November 12 2014 19:23 GMT
#6133
On November 13 2014 03:47 SatedSC2 wrote:
I never open Forge vs. Zerg so I never get to be as dirty as that T_T

I hope someone hosts a tournament using the #DreamPool maps.


So terran can take more easy money? D:
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
November 12 2014 20:37 GMT
#6134
On November 13 2014 04:23 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2014 03:47 SatedSC2 wrote:
I never open Forge vs. Zerg so I never get to be as dirty as that T_T

I hope someone hosts a tournament using the #DreamPool maps.


So terran can take more easy money? D:


Seriously....
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
November 12 2014 20:39 GMT
#6135
I need help. I've been doing Parting's Big Boy build but now with the new pool every single Terran is just going for a big pre Medivac Stim timing and that just hard counters me.

I just... can't. beat. Terran. at all.....

Is there any build that properly balances safety and economy? I lose every single game to mass Marauders. No matter how many Zealots /Colossus/Archons/Immortals I have I feel like the dude is just A-moving me with twice as many Marauders and winning.

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"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-12 20:41:03
November 12 2014 20:40 GMT
#6136
On November 13 2014 02:43 Teoita wrote:
I may or may not be writing an article about breaking the current map pool with every race.


If your article says "play Terran" then it's 100% correct :/


EDIT- sorry for the whining. As you can obviously see I'm a bit frustrated.
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
November 12 2014 20:44 GMT
#6137
I went from 92% PvT to 25% all in the span of two weeks. Thank you Blizzard.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-12 20:50:20
November 12 2014 20:44 GMT
#6138
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Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
November 12 2014 20:48 GMT
#6139
On November 13 2014 05:44 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I went from 92% PvT to 25% all in the span of two weeks. Fuck these maps.


Nerf warpgates they said. It will be fun they said....
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
vhapter
Profile Joined May 2010
Brazil677 Posts
November 12 2014 21:03 GMT
#6140
For you guys complaining about PvT:

1- Veto Shakuras Plateau.
2- Veto Xel'Naga Caverns.
3- Veto Metalopolis.
4- ????
5- Profit!

If that still doesn't work, try learning how to play PvT properly.
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