EPTThe HotS Protoss Help Me Thread - Page 202
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aZealot
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Teoita
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aZealot
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(Heh, or try out all the 1 base PvT all-ins.) :D | ||
EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
On November 30 2013 06:10 aZealot wrote: Thanks, Teo. I guess I'll stay with Immortal busts then and work on that, or try out Chargelot/Archon. (Heh, or try out all the 1 base PvT all-ins.) :D http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=435336 The 2-base Duckfuck Build!! Try ittttt!!!! | ||
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aZealot
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blooblooblahblah
Australia4163 Posts
On November 30 2013 06:10 aZealot wrote: Thanks, Teo. I guess I'll stay with Immortal busts then and work on that, or try out Chargelot/Archon. (Heh, or try out all the 1 base PvT all-ins.) :D 2 base colossi all ins can still sort of work, one example was Genius vs MMA where Genius sat on 2 base and made 4 colossi and blink stalkers off 6 gates and then attacked and won. One of my personal favourites is the old MC 4 carrier 6gate all in from WoL, but with a couple of changes that account for a mothership core expand. Now i open with an oracle instead and try to do as much damage as possible without losing it. Revelation becomes really important once terran tries to move out, and the actual push with carriers is pretty strong if done well. | ||
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aZealot
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Cheers chaps.  | ||
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blooblooblahblah
Australia4163 Posts
On November 30 2013 06:20 aZealot wrote: You mean the carrier build MC used against Kas on CK? That sounds a fun build to try in HOTS. I'll try that too (but just for the lols, I think). That leaves me with 3 PvT builds for this season when 30 minutes ago I really only had one (Immortal bust). Cheers chaps. Yeah the idea comes from MC's game vs Kas. HotS however allows you to be a lot safer and greedier with the mothership core, and the oracle allows you to harass early and be able to know where the army is once medivacs are out. Also, it's extremely hilarious when u win which almost makes it worth it on its own. | ||
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aldochillbro
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I tried to link the videos but forgot for some. they should be on IEM's page so you can access them from the videos i did link or just go to sc2casts.com + Show Spoiler + Squirtle vs feast g1 pvp frost(4p map) Proxy stargate 15 gas 2x 18 pylon at proxy 19 stargate 19 msc 21 warpgate start probe productin again oracle, stalker 30 2x gates blink to end game squirtle vs feast g2 pvp yeonsu 15 2x gas. 19 gate #2 21 msc(chrono) 23 stalker 27 ~440 twilight, 2x stalkers blink feast went 2 oracle contain into robo into immortals and second bas. Squirtle went double stargate pheonix when he saw it and slowly expands. what feast did: 15 gas 2x, 3 on each 21 stalker, wg 24 ~410-415 stargate ~25 like halfway through stargate msc stalker oracle ~600 2x gates second oracle made, used both to contain squirtle vs avenge pvp frost g1 squirtle: 15 gas 2x, 3 in each zealot after(not right after) core but cancels 21 ~340 msc, wg sentry 27 nexus 27 stargate probe production and a sentry #2 stalker oracle, then into pheonix 6:00 2x gates 3rd gas maybe around 7 minutes 735 double stargate avenge: 15 gas 2x, 3 each 21 sentry, msc, wg(pylon before this) sentry #2 after sentry#1 29 nexus 29 stargate sentry when you can, halluc. 540ish 545-550 2x gates san vs targa g1 pvz yeonsu gate expand no ramp wall 15 gas zealot then 23 expand, msc/wg after 25 pylon 27 ~440 2x gates, then sentry 4th gate in main like 500 after attack killing third, sg 735ish, then 2x gas g2: 12gate 15 gas no wall zealot wg, nexus 23 targa went weird burrow play, got smashed oz vs effort pvz yeonsu g1 1 gate fe no gas at ramp vs 14/14 speed(5:00 speed done) ,scouted after second pylon zealot before nexus, nexus 21(keep probes going) 22 double gas, zealot, 24 pylon 29 or so sentry/msc. Oz messed up his micro but it’s hard to hold that. He went like 830 stargate into oracle off 1 base then expand and kinda made it work but eventually lost | ||
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Teoita
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aldochillbro
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EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
On December 01 2013 07:02 aldochillbro wrote: I don't feel important enough to make a blog post about it lol, just trying to contribute to the thread. I won't do it anymore but should I edit my last post out? Maybe just put it in spoilers. Thanks for the notes though! | ||
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Teoita
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aldochillbro
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On December 01 2013 07:18 SC2John wrote: Maybe just put it in spoilers. Thanks for the notes though! good suggestion, just did it. If ppl like this I might do this again sometime | ||
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suicideyear
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
is there a video like filtersc - bronze to masters that goes over protoss mechanics and everything. | ||
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Teoita
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Mantaza
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Wanna look at some builds from them since i havent played for 3months now. | ||
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ZeromuS
Canada13421 Posts
On December 02 2013 08:23 Mantaza wrote: are the Dreamhack replays going to be available soon ? Wanna look at some builds from them since i havent played for 3months now. usually they get released pretty quickly. On a side note: Teoita and SC2John are having a grudgematch: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=437115#1 (and yes I have been plugging this wherever possible non stop for the last 10 minutes, this is the last place I have to put it) | ||
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HelpMeGetBetter
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EsportsJohn
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On December 03 2013 02:11 HelpMeGetBetter wrote: in PvT - I'v been trying a early Blink play, but see my opponent is going for Mech. Every time I end up losing the macro game. Any tips on how to beat Mech after opening with Blink? Just pressure and keep him from moving out. Most of the time players will take a 3rd and go double robo immortal production behind this. cj_hero played a pretty convincing game against Mvp at IEM this past weekend: CJherO vs Mvp IEM Singapore | ||
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