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Marathi
Profile Joined July 2011
298 Posts
July 09 2013 06:49 GMT
#2341
On July 09 2013 06:54 DragonKing132 wrote:
I have a question that stems from a day9 daily. He kept talking about three command center builds? What exactly is that?


A build that has little production facilities in the early game so you can get a faster third base so you can have really fast saturation and lots of mules early.

Pretty standard in TvZ, the gist of it is CC first > barracks > gas > factory > reactor on barracks which you swap to fact > start hellions and get third CC when you can > follow up with rest of pproduction facilities

Plenty of build orders around for it
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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
July 09 2013 06:54 GMT
#2342
On July 09 2013 13:06 hyunseung wrote:
since the free coaching thread is dead and nobody even responds, can someone that is at least masters at terran help coach me? really need help esp vs zerg (plat/dia terran here)


I don't have time to coach you personally, but if you write down your concerns and problems, I'll take the time (as well as others) to help you out and point out mistakes. You could also add a replay. Since I always reply from work though , I can never watch it. What do you struggle with?
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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
July 09 2013 09:28 GMT
#2343
I'm hunting for a solid, stable way to TvT. I'm really new to Terran and I sort of get the gist of TvZ and TvP, but TvT for me atm is just make hellbat marauder and a-move, drop if he has tanks. Stupid shit liek that i have no idea what i'm doing.


For example atm I'm just doing a one rax reaper into idk when to expand into I get random buildings just to produce random units just to spend my resources.

I can't find a solid TvT opener and composition/play style anywhere on TL. I'd really just take a general gist thing, like:

open 2 rax marine, then get a cc. after that start producing marine/hellbat/medic only or something alone those lines. any tips?
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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
July 09 2013 09:37 GMT
#2344
forGG opening is very solid all around and can transition into bio as well as mech.
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govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-09 10:42:25
July 09 2013 10:36 GMT
#2345
On July 09 2013 18:37 NarutO wrote:
forGG opening is very solid all around and can transition into bio as well as mech.


Indeed forgg opener is best safe tvt opener out there. Only strong strategy against it is a thordrop-allin, but even then u can still win in this scenario. And a thordrop-allin is strong against most buildorders, not only the forgg opener. Community tried its best to give ya some info on it here It has buildorder, gastimings, vods to watch. Pretty solid BO, eco focussed with harras potential.
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GrandSmurf
Profile Joined July 2003
Netherlands462 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-09 11:12:42
July 09 2013 11:10 GMT
#2346
On July 09 2013 18:28 Incognoto wrote:
I'm hunting for a solid, stable way to TvT. I'm really new to Terran and I sort of get the gist of TvZ and TvP, but TvT for me atm is just make hellbat marauder and a-move, drop if he has tanks. Stupid shit liek that i have no idea what i'm doing.


For example atm I'm just doing a one rax reaper into idk when to expand into I get random buildings just to produce random units just to spend my resources.

I can't find a solid TvT opener and composition/play style anywhere on TL. I'd really just take a general gist thing, like:

open 2 rax marine, then get a cc. after that start producing marine/hellbat/medic only or something alone those lines. any tips?



http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=412904

[edit] post above me beat me to it.
One time that happened and I just stopped everything, selected the offending SCV, hit Cancel, moved it over to my Barracks, made a Marine, had the Marine shoot it to death, then left the game.
A Wild Sosd
Profile Joined September 2012
Australia421 Posts
July 09 2013 11:51 GMT
#2347
On July 09 2013 18:37 NarutO wrote:
forGG opening is very solid all around and can transition into bio as well as mech.

Care to explain how to transition into bio? I've always liked the look and idea of it but I just cant stand mech so I've never used it and I've always stuck to the old innovation marine hellion expand.
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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
July 09 2013 11:58 GMT
#2348
Thanks for the links! I'm sorry I didn't spend more time checking every single thread that came with the "TvT" research. The first few links weren't all that interesting and I decided to look elsewhere. ^^"

gg guys, thanks
maru lover forever
awakenx
Profile Joined May 2011
United States341 Posts
July 09 2013 12:00 GMT
#2349
On July 09 2013 20:51 A Wild Sosd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 18:37 NarutO wrote:
forGG opening is very solid all around and can transition into bio as well as mech.

Care to explain how to transition into bio? I've always liked the look and idea of it but I just cant stand mech so I've never used it and I've always stuck to the old innovation marine hellion expand.


Well the ForGG build basically is mech with BFH + tanks + vikings. The first part of the build (the 8 marine 1 medivac + hellions) is basically the old inno marine/hellion build.
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Othayuni
Profile Joined July 2013
United States1 Post
July 09 2013 16:53 GMT
#2350
Hey everyone--I'm really new here and terrible with new forums, so forgive me for any social faux pas' I commit; I assure you I don't know I'm making them.

I'm recently getting in to terran (coming from a history as a gold-level zerg). I notice one thing that really helped me get in to zerg is that a friend played zerg and I had a mentor of sorts to really teach me how to use the race. I don't have anyone like that regarding Terran. I'm interested in having someone to just plain talk to, about pretty much everything. This place seems like a good community and I thought I'd try my hand at asking if anyone feels like they really vibe with and enjoy the attitude of the race and want to help pass it on to someone else.

For heaven's sake, do inform me if I'm posting this in the wrong place. I'll gladly remove this post if possible and remake it somewhere more appropriate if need be.
Pirfiktshon
Profile Joined June 2013
United States1072 Posts
July 09 2013 20:20 GMT
#2351
Hey I'll help you out I'm on NA server always willing to help out You can check me out on ggtracker.com here is the link for it
http://ggtracker.com/players/338228/Pirfiktshon
give me your account and character code and i'll add you
Rhaegal
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States678 Posts
July 09 2013 21:00 GMT
#2352
On July 09 2013 18:37 NarutO wrote:
forGG opening is very solid all around and can transition into bio as well as mech.


Are you referring to 12 rax 15 gas, cc reactor? Hasn't that been a standard build since WoL? Does forGG do something differently with it?
http://www.twitch.tv/agonysc
teuthida
Profile Joined March 2013
United States104 Posts
July 09 2013 21:12 GMT
#2353
On July 10 2013 06:00 Rhaegal wrote:
Are you referring to 12 rax 15 gas, cc reactor? Hasn't that been a standard build since WoL? Does forGG do something differently with it?


The link above breaks down the build pretty well. He gets a pretty early viking and raven and stays on BF hellions for a long time. That raven comes in handy, the other day I blew up like 6-7 of my opponent's hellions with one well placed HSM in the early game (still lost for other reasons though ).
teuthida
Profile Joined March 2013
United States104 Posts
July 09 2013 21:13 GMT
#2354
On July 10 2013 01:53 Othayuni wrote:
Hey everyone--I'm really new here and terrible with new forums, so forgive me for any social faux pas' I commit; I assure you I don't know I'm making them.

I'm recently getting in to terran (coming from a history as a gold-level zerg). I notice one thing that really helped me get in to zerg is that a friend played zerg and I had a mentor of sorts to really teach me how to use the race. I don't have anyone like that regarding Terran. I'm interested in having someone to just plain talk to, about pretty much everything. This place seems like a good community and I thought I'd try my hand at asking if anyone feels like they really vibe with and enjoy the attitude of the race and want to help pass it on to someone else.

For heaven's sake, do inform me if I'm posting this in the wrong place. I'll gladly remove this post if possible and remake it somewhere more appropriate if need be.


Same, I'm around top plat level right now, but if you want to chat / practice just send me your info and I'll add
Darkzephr
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1 Post
July 09 2013 22:50 GMT
#2355
Hi everyone, I've heard that the best way to improve is to focus on one thing, and do that one thing really well until it becomes second nature. I'm a gold league Terran looking for some suggestions on what I can focus on doing better in games.

some replays are available here at my ggtracker:
http://ggtracker.com/players/198582/darkzephr

Thanks!
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
July 09 2013 23:26 GMT
#2356
On July 10 2013 06:00 Rhaegal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 18:37 NarutO wrote:
forGG opening is very solid all around and can transition into bio as well as mech.


Are you referring to 12 rax 15 gas, cc reactor? Hasn't that been a standard build since WoL? Does forGG do something differently with it?


No, but hes the only one who can win 45 games out of 48 games with it in tvt
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awakenx
Profile Joined May 2011
United States341 Posts
July 09 2013 23:38 GMT
#2357
On July 10 2013 07:50 Darkzephr wrote:
Hi everyone, I've heard that the best way to improve is to focus on one thing, and do that one thing really well until it becomes second nature. I'm a gold league Terran looking for some suggestions on what I can focus on doing better in games.

some replays are available here at my ggtracker:
http://ggtracker.com/players/198582/darkzephr

Thanks!


Well, if you look at it you seem to have OC max out on energy a lot. Try to remember to spend it, such as continously cycling when you go to produce scvs, check to see if you have enough energy to do something (scan, mule, and you can tell because the icon won't be darkened). Mules are pretty big to the terran economy so it's pretty crucial you spend the energy to use them,
WorstMicroNA
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
July 09 2013 23:56 GMT
#2358
On July 10 2013 08:38 awakenx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 07:50 Darkzephr wrote:
Hi everyone, I've heard that the best way to improve is to focus on one thing, and do that one thing really well until it becomes second nature. I'm a gold league Terran looking for some suggestions on what I can focus on doing better in games.

some replays are available here at my ggtracker:
http://ggtracker.com/players/198582/darkzephr

Thanks!


Well, if you look at it you seem to have OC max out on energy a lot. Try to remember to spend it, such as continously cycling when you go to produce scvs, check to see if you have enough energy to do something (scan, mule, and you can tell because the icon won't be darkened). Mules are pretty big to the terran economy so it's pretty crucial you spend the energy to use them,


Next to mules... thou shall produce scv's constantly until 66 scv's! thats about 12/13 minutes orso when every base has 16+6 scv's!!!! Ur saturationspeed drops during every game. Learn to build more scv's until 3 fully saterated bases (66 scv's).

After that learn to spend better. If u have those 66 scv's ur spending skill will drop because of more income. Learn to keep spending minerals in rax and factories and starports and upgrades!!!
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Wein
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil452 Posts
July 10 2013 01:03 GMT
#2359
What openings u guys doing on TvP?

Im opening the reactor rax expand or 1 rax expand into 3 rax (bomber style).

What other variations u guys doing?
tarpman
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada718 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-10 01:25:28
July 10 2013 01:12 GMT
#2360
I'm playing Random in platinum league. Any tips on defending multi-pronged attacks? Every race does it: Zergs attack my main with mutalisks and my expansions with zerglings and roaches, and Terrans and Protosses drop units one or two bases while attacking another with their main army. I really hate it when I've just watched all my marines walk up to my main to push out a drop or warp-in, and then the main army rolls over my undefended third or fourth. That happens all the time!

edit: I spent some time searching for posts about this, but all the search results about "multi-prong" are about being the aggressor!
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