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JaKaTaKSc2 United States2787 Posts April 29 2014 00:10 GMT #6421 EDIT: These are the files for Random 2.0 Alpha so far. Download from github instead! Kind of. Video is incoming for explanation. There's going to be some unbound shit, prepare yourself for some ugly stuff, but if you're savvy it shouldn't take you more than 5 minutes with TheCore Master Spreadsheet to have yourself a wonderful 2.0 Alpha file you can use to play Sc2 and Starbow.

brook8128 Korea (South)66 Posts April 29 2014 00:11 GMT #6422 If you made random 2.0, please upload file.

JaKaTaKSc2 United States2787 Posts April 29 2014 00:12 GMT #6423 did you click the link I just posted? the files are there.

brook8128 Korea (South)66 Posts April 29 2014 00:13 GMT #6424 thank you jakatak

JaKaTaKSc2 United States2787 Posts April 29 2014 00:16 GMT #6425 You're very welcome

blaze13 United States24 Posts April 29 2014 02:40 GMT #6426 Unless I'm doing something wrong, RRM seems like it got messed up somehow. Quite a few of the hotkeys are on the left side of the keyboard along with some throwaway keys being on the right. There are unbound keys and I think a couple of the cg's are wrong.

JaKaTaKSc2 United States2787 Posts April 29 2014 02:45 GMT #6427 specifics will help. Without them I can do nothing.

blaze13 United States24 Posts April 29 2014 02:50 GMT #6428 Ah I had just woke up and didn't read through everything yet "There's going to be some unbound shit, prepare yourself for some ugly stuff" Fair enough. If you would like I could go through and give you a list of what is not lined up with the spreadsheet.

JaKaTaKSc2 United States2787 Posts April 29 2014 02:55 GMT #6429 that would help a lot, thanks

brook8128 Korea (South)66 Posts April 29 2014 03:14 GMT #6430 RRM has a few of the hotkeys that are on the left side. Attack is W, hatchery is Q, hydra is S....

brook8128 Korea (South)66 Posts April 29 2014 03:21 GMT #6431 I think RRM mixed with RLM.

JaKaTaKSc2 United States2787 Posts April 29 2014 03:30 GMT #6432 but how!?

blaze13 United States24 Posts April 29 2014 03:34 GMT #6433 Ok, here is everything I have found so far. "CG 8" is "B" should be "N" "W" is used anwhere that is suppose to be "P" "Q" is used anwhere that it is suppose to be "[" "S" is used anywhere that is suppose to be ";" "2" is used anwhere that is suppose to be "-" "Load" is unbound should be "/" "Halt" is on "R" should be on "8" "8" is bound to "move" although 8 is not throwaway "8" is not bound to alternate keys for rapid fire (This affects 4 of the keys on "choose ability or ai target") As said below: "1" is used anywhere that is supposed to be "=" "Nuke" unbound should be on "8" I will update if I find anything else. Edit: I think "lift" and "load" might conflict with each other even though they are suppose to be on the same key because of command centers. Edit 2: Also seems to be a conflict with putting halt on the same key as a building command such as building a nuke or researching neosteel frame.

endoflaven 5 Posts April 29 2014 03:47 GMT #6434 also 1 is used anywhere that is supposed to be Equals sign. (Hold fire on ghost, non-rapid fire Build Auto Turret, possibly more)

Becuula Germany65 Posts April 29 2014 15:21 GMT #6435 RRM is indeed messed up. Just open the file in SC2 and have a look at the pylon or Gateway and you will see what blaze has found out. Could you also provide the file in the other Keyboard versions? I am interested in the German RRM one. I am curious to try it out. In any case thanks for your work.

JaKaTaKSc2 United States2787 Posts April 29 2014 15:30 GMT #6436 Thanks for your continued help everyone. Hacking away at this on my own is exhausting. What we need to do is find the patterns. There should be no unbound keys. It seems that 8 in particular is showing up a lot. Potentially because we haven't used it before (on the left side). The switch of where the CGs are could also be causing problems. Unfortunately I can't read python so i'm not 100% sure which maps thecoreremapper.py is using. I'll get the other keyboard versions when we solve this next problem. It is a time consuming task to upload every single one and skydrive doesn't just let me drag and drop the whole folder. Alternatives?

McMatus Austria17 Posts April 29 2014 20:26 GMT #6437 Aproximently how long will it take to adjust to the new hotkeys when they are ready?

kingneckbeard United States24 Posts April 29 2014 21:02 GMT #6438 Fixing RRM and the others - Looks like it has to do with the MapDefinitions.ini file. Right now, the line "W = ForwardMouseButton,ForwardMouseButton,P" appears underneath "[RCGMaps]" and the line "V = V,M,M" appears underneath "[RAMaps]". I'm assuming this means that it thinks W and P are control groups (for random), and that V and M are abilities (for random). When you run TheCoreRemapper.py with these lines as they are, you get "ControlGroupRecall7=V" in the RRM file. When you swap the lines "W = ForwardMouseButton,ForwardMouseButton,P" and "V = V,M,M" and run TheCoreRemapper.py, you get "ControlGroupRecall7=M" Now, I don't know exactly how this thing works, so there might be more to it than what I did, but I think I have the random, terran, and protoss sets in a better place than they were before. http://pastebin.com/093kp0dR Something is still wrong with Ralley point and a few ghost hotkeys. I'm in a hurry, and I don't have time to figure it out. It probably has something to do with the MapDefinitions.ini file though. You may even want to start from the original (rather than my version) and make the changes yourself. I don't know exactly what keys should be in each categories, so I'm worried about how my changes affected the small and large layouts. tl;dr - Need to rearrange MapDefinitions.ini file. I tried to make some of the changes myself, but ralley is still unbound and a few ghost keys. Probably has to do with this file. May want to start from the original and try to make the changes yourself. Uploading files - Are you just using the skydrive web interface through a browser for everything? Unless I'm missing something, I think you should just download the onedrive/skydrive program from microsoft https://onedrive.live.com/about/en-us/download/ install this and link it to your account, and then there will be a folder on your computer (like dropbox if you've ever used it). It might take a few minutes, but you should see all your existing folders in your skydrive in this folder (they will be online in your skydrive and offline in your computer). Find that folder and put the stuff in it, then it should be online within a few minutes. If that doesn't work, you could use dropbox or just make a zip file of all the stuff, upload the zip file, and then let people download every layout.

JaKaTaKSc2 United States2787 Posts April 29 2014 21:07 GMT #6439 the new layouts will probably take a bit less time to learn than it took you to learn 1.0. thanks for the help kingneckbeard, I've been using the browser, I'll try the program.

McMatus Austria17 Posts April 29 2014 21:54 GMT #6440 I few pages back i saw something about version 1.1. Will there be 2 seperate versions or was the v 1.1 renamed into 2.0? And will it be necessary to switch cause tbh i wouldnt like to relearn the hotkeys again after they finally are starting to save into my muscle memory. Like on what aspect will the update mainly target on?(Efficiency,Comfort,...) and about how much better will it be in relation to the current layout?

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