[G] TheCore - Advanced Keyboard Layout - Page 210

On April 30 2013 10:30 Antylamon wrote:
Having 8 CGs for units is godly. I haven't been able to utilize it to its full extent since I'm currently going through TheStaircase, but I'll go through the main advantages I can think of atm. You probably already know them, but what the heck.

1. A full army key instead of being required to 1a2a3a. This makes a-moving and retreating 3 times faster on its own.
2. The obvious ones; spellcasters on a different key, vikings/colossi/tanks/whatever on another one, etc.
3. Two or three harass groups. Odds are, if you aren't MKP, you can't effectively micro a multi-pronged harass, unless you have this.
4. You can use spare CGs for whatever you want. The workers in your main if your opponent is dropping you a lot, baneling mines... it's just nice to have some wiggle room on your CGs in general. You can also use them for macro if you want to, like with TLabs, Cybers, and every Zerg building but Hatches and crawlers.

Then there's tab macro. The main reason tab macro isn't usually considered effective is because people are usually hitting tab from ASDF to use it. In TheCore, of course, it's the side mouse buttons, which eliminates a lot of the downsides. Getting used to using tab is a plus as well, although arguably it is most useful for Terran (reactors and tech labs), so I'm a bit biased.

On May 01 2013 00:37 JaKaTaK wrote:
Tab from ASDF with the pinky is a rough key. It is a row higher and to the left, the pinky is absolutely the worst finger at reaching to the row above, and has the shortest reach, making tab a particularly slow key from ASDF.

On May 01 2013 03:43 JaKaTaK wrote:
The reason for this is that a lot of time is spent checking the macro and not actually taking actions. Having all of our macro on the homekeys is not something I think is a good idea to give up.

On April 30 2013 12:37 JaKaTaK wrote:
@Anty
nick (eneyeseekay) made fleet keys and posts here pretty regularly. Anything useful in that layout that can be applied to TheCore has already been incorporated, probably at nick's suggestion, but I'm not going to go through 210 pages to find out Although if you've found something in there that could be of use, I'd love to know it

On April 30 2013 19:13 eneyeseekay wrote:
Another subtle but potentially powerful feature I managed to implement was a rapid fire command that lets you issue any ability or spell at the speed of your keyboard's repeat rate. No clicking required, no moving you hand out of reach, no mouse buttons or modifiers required. Sounds ridiculous, doesn't it? I'm not kidding though, it works, and doesn't get in the way of any other bindings either. You can spam Infested Terrans, Creep Tumors, Corruption, Feedback, Snipes, all of the Build Basic/Advanced commands, anything, and it works for all races. Not sure how useful it will be, but *shrug*...I think it's a cool feature I've never seen before.

On May 01 2013 05:26 JaKaTaK wrote:
this rapid fire command seems like it would go against the Blizzard ToS. Unless its something blizzard is developing... will you please explain this wizardry Mr. Nick?

On April 30 2013 23:40 JaKaTaK wrote:
@Borskey
Not sure about the snipe issue. It seems that you've got it figured out though.

On May 01 2013 00:28 Fiziks wrote:
The funny thing about drops is they usually last like maybe 45-90 in game seconds tops? Even if you do drops repeatedly, why would you prioritize drops as their own CG when they take up so little total game time? If you're a macro-oriented player my guess is that you should be prioritizing good macro above all other things.

On May 01 2013 05:44 Borskey wrote:


It involved making an alternate bind for left click. You can do it right through the blizzard hotkey system.

Under UI Management, find "Choose ability or A.I Target". Normally, this is bound to Left Click. If you bind it to a key, it does the same thing as left clicking at your keyboard's refresh rate.

For example, set the alternate bind to "/", which is the same as Snipe in TRM. Then, if you hold / down with your ghosts selected, it's like spam clicking while holding your snipe button. It's kind of abusive, to the point where even though it's technically something built into their hotkey system I doubt they'd want people using it that way.

It also works with infested terran.

On May 01 2013 06:00 JaKaTaK wrote:
Wow, that's super abusive. I wonder if they'll allow it in tournaments.

On May 01 2013 05:58 Antylamon wrote:
So basically we can get away with superfast ITs by making a Ctrl+Shift+I alternate for left click on Zerg layouts?

Sounds good to me.

Unfortunately it isn't very useful for any Terran or Protoss abilities, especially considering Ctrl+Shift for J and I are taken already. Although AutoTurret and *coughprenerf* Snipe seem useful for spamming.

On May 01 2013 06:12 Borskey wrote:


Why have Ctrl+Shift in there? I'd say move Infested Terran to some key where it won't conflict with anything else that needs leftclick, and then just make that key by itself the alternate bind. I don't know off hand if there are any conflicts other than Transfuse.

For Protoss, I think it might be good for warping in Zealots. I dunno if it works with that, as I've never tested it.

For Terran, it's definitely best for snipe. I don't think / conflicts with something like stim or medivac boost, as those don't require use of a left-click like snipe does. I haven't tested it. Off hand, I can say it would conflict with Point Defense Drones.