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Xaldarian
Netherlands65 Posts
I would encourage every terran to 2rax me since I pull all probes from my natural and win the fight every single time. I then follow up with a sick immortal bust with lots of sentries off of 6 gates and proxy pylons along the route to his base. The only times I've lost were against weird stuff like marine tank or mistakes from my side. | ||
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iSHOKZ
Germany138 Posts
On June 08 2012 15:59 Naniwa wrote: its my build that he got from me GRRRRR woot i would give you all the credit but i can't edit the topic. Atleast i added it in the text above. Your the buildorder man ! | ||
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inCyde
Germany42 Posts
 *Thumbs up* | ||
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xeo1
United States429 Posts
On June 02 2012 08:54 Masvidal wrote: In my PvT, I like to use Parting's other 1 Gate FE, the one where he gets a core before Nexus. Its safer and more flexible, and still puts you in a better position economically than MC's by a lottle. The openimg BO, in case anyone's interested: 9 - Pylon (CB Nexus 2x) 13 - Gateway (CB Nexus), Scout 15- Assimilator x2 (2 Probes in each) 17 - Pylon 17 - Cybernetics Core 18 - Zealot * - @ 100% Core: Stalker (CB), WG Research 24 - Nexus 25 - Pylon 26 - Robotics Facility (cut probes for a bit) 26 - Gateway x2 26 - Sentry Once safe and have your expo going and observer, next building is Forge for armor. Go from there as you like. when do you put the the 2 additional probes on the gases to saturate fully? | ||
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Aelfric
Turkey1496 Posts
Here is the replay: http://drop.sc/201147 | ||
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Jaeger
United States1150 Posts
On June 08 2012 15:59 Naniwa wrote: its my build that he got from me GRRRRR That's awesome the build is amazing. | ||
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Serge89
Belgium38 Posts
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Daimai
Sweden762 Posts
On June 23 2012 22:07 Serge89 wrote: Assuming you have good skill whatever, can u use this build against all terran opening ? I do this in case of gasless expand from the terran but i'm scared of doin' this against gas expand. I just started doing it, but 2 rax is easily holdable if you add 2 gw at 5 min and chronoboost wg instead of probes. Otherwise you just have to scout for proxies and stuff, I died to proxied factory and starport producing cloakshees and hellions TT proxies are silly | ||
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iS.Axslav
United States248 Posts
On June 04 2012 19:12 Sated wrote: How does this compare with HuK's 20food FE because it seems to have the exact same problems: both builds are really easy to scout and both builds are really easy to screw over with an Engineering Bay or Supply Depot block... but at least with HuK's opening you can fake building a Zealot to try and hide what you're doing. Another thing that HuK's build lets you do is pressure with 5 Stalkers at more or less the same time a 4gate would hit, a push that can actually win you games if the opponent is trying to be too greedy. This build doesn't give you any opportunity to put pressure on. So this build isn't as safe and doesn't let you pressure, so I guess what I'm asking is just how large the economic advantage of doing this build is? Because as far as I can see, this build looks a lot less safe that HuK's opening for what seems like a minimal gain in economy. The nexus in this build is fast enough that most terran scouts don't get to you until the nexus is started, whereas the 20 food nexus is substantially later (pylon, core, 3 more probes before nexus). | ||
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aTo
Austria588 Posts
thx sir! next time i play goody i wount use it )) | ||
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aTo
Austria588 Posts
On June 08 2012 15:59 Naniwa wrote: its my build that he got from me GRRRRR plz give us more builds sir  srry doublepost tt | ||
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Gumbi
Ireland463 Posts
Get 18 Pylon ASAP. As the Pylon finishes you have 100 gas and enough money to cue a Stalker, WG and a Probe, Chronoing the Stalker and WG. I like this build, it can't be blocked/exploited and it's safe vs. Bunkers etc. | ||
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AlphaDotCom
United States43 Posts
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Gumbi
Ireland463 Posts
On June 26 2012 06:34 AlphaDotCom wrote: Pretty sure u can't hold proxy 2 rax with this any thoughts on 11 scout so you can check for proxies and go to normal build from this? There's only so much you can give way for builds like that. A proxy 2 Rax on a 2 player map? I guess just use your 13 probe scout to scour the map if something seems amiss in the Terran's main. The build can hold a 2 Rax np if you drop your Gates before 5 mins (requires a probe cut - only necessary if you see gas/Reactored Rax). You can have a Sentry, 2 Stalkers and a Zealot, with 6:05 Warp-ins, which is plenty good to stop a 2 Rax, even if it's SCV heavy.The Sentry can be especially handy, to Forcefield by the Bunker placement. | ||
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AlphaDotCom
United States43 Posts
On June 26 2012 06:43 Gumbi wrote: There's only so much you can give way for builds like that. A proxy 2 Rax on a 2 player map? I guess just use your 13 probe scout to scour the map if something seems amiss in the Terran's main. The build can hold a 2 Rax np if you drop your Gates before 5 mins (requires a probe cut - only necessary if you see gas/Reactored Rax). You can have a Sentry, 2 Stalkers and a Zealot, with 6:05 Warp-ins, which is plenty good to stop a 2 Rax, even if it's SCV heavy.The Sentry can be especially handy, to Forcefield by the Bunker placement. To clarify I mean proxy 11 11 rax marine scv. On 2 player map if you 13 scout and realize something is wrong when you reach terran base its too late to react | ||
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AlphaDotCom
United States43 Posts
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Gumbi
Ireland463 Posts
On June 26 2012 07:02 AlphaDotCom wrote: To clarify I mean proxy 11 11 rax marine scv. On 2 player map if you 13 scout and realize something is wrong when you reach terran base its too late to react Oh, well I always scout in obvious locations on my way to the T base on 2 player maps, without going too much out of my way. (I want to get in the Terran's main). Apart from that, there's not much you can do, apart from chronoing Stalkers from 2 Gates. You'd have to tank a lot on the Nexus, and give it up if they really commit (Bunkers and SCVs). I don't think it's a total BO loss, but it would be very hard to hold. | ||
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aTo
Austria588 Posts
i did this strat - T instant scouted me and saw late gas and fe - he walled so i couldnt scout (i did the 5 minute +2 gate thing so i'd be save) but then he allined with scv train out of 4 rax :/ i couldnt scout him - first i went to the wrong startposition and then he was walled in ofc i can outmicro the marines with stalkers - but it gets kinda hard when i got like 3-4 vs 15 rines and some scv any advice? maybe if i see him scout that early i should build nexus and cancle after he leaves with scout-scv and follow up with 3gate robo and then expo? dont know | ||
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Fus
Sweden1112 Posts
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iSHOKZ
Germany138 Posts
On June 26 2012 06:34 AlphaDotCom wrote: Pretty sure u can't hold proxy 2 rax with this any thoughts on 11 scout so you can check for proxies and go to normal build from this? If you throw down your gas at 14 but dont mine from it and then react if you have scouted the terran and instead of throwing down the expansion saturate your gas, get a zealot, one more gate and a core you might be able to hold an 11/11 rax all in. But its hard enough to hold that with a "normal" 1g expand | ||
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