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On June 26 2012 20:18 aTo wrote:just played 1n1 on antiga and tried to play this i did this strat - T instant scouted me and saw late gas and fe - he walled so i couldnt scout (i did the 5 minute +2 gate thing so i'd be save) but then he allined with scv train out of 4 rax :/ i couldnt scout him - first i went to the wrong startposition and then he was walled in ofc i can outmicro the marines with stalkers - but it gets kinda hard when i got like 3-4 vs 15 rines and some scv  any advice? maybe if i see him scout that early i should build nexus and cancle after he leaves with scout-scv and follow up with 3gate robo and then expo? dont know
Don't get a late gas - get the Gate and Gas at standard timings. You'll have the Nexus down before the Terran realises you start mining late from it. If you 13 scout, you should get in most times on a 2 player map. If you can't get in, you need to hold the watchtower, and sac probes at the ramp to scout his unit composition.
Make sure you know when moves out of his base, and with what.
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I'm really interested in this variation - if anyone else has replays to upload I'd really appreciate seeing them - especially replays that include playing against the gasless expand that is so popular at the moment.
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you can do a sick 6gate using this opening, learned it from tails, but the problem with this build is if they scout early or if they proxy rax your so fucked
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On June 28 2012 08:49 thoughtless_1 wrote:
I'm really interested in this variation - if anyone else has replays to upload I'd really appreciate seeing them - especially replays that include playing against the gasless expand that is so popular at the moment.
i will upload some if i have the time for that, thanks for your interest.
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On July 01 2012 14:34 P7GAB wrote:
you can do a sick 6gate using this opening, learned it from tails, but the problem with this build is if they scout early or if they proxy rax your so fucked any vods or replays of tails executing a 6 gate from this build?
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Any updates on this? I do it all the time but recently EVERY Terran has been 11/11 rax scv all-inning me. Wtf am I supposed to do to that? Just GG out? Is this an obsolete build already?
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Add the vod of Sun vs Happy (i think) on Daybreak, in which Sun holds off a marine scv allin
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Is this opening the best way to set up for a fast (Parting style) double expand?
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Different builds yo. Double expand takes the third before pressuring (if at all), rather than going pressure --> third. You hit at different timings (between 7 and 8.30 as opposed to 9.30 ish).
This build is a good way to go about 3 nex -> mass gateway units because that build is designed to be extremely effective mostly vs only bio (no 1-2base techy stuff), and on huge maps, while an opening like this is designed to give you a bigger econ to not fall behind vs 1rax fe or 15 cc like you would with a safer 1gate fe. You are not safe vs all sorts of timings and rushes, but if you are playing say on Atlantis Spaceship it's actually fine, and a map like that is also extremely good for a fast third build off only one gate, which is what Salient was asking about.
That said, any 1gate fe or nexus first variation that stays on a single gas works fine if you want to double expand.
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Give Sated a break editing all that stuff takes a lot :D
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Would really like to see a replay vs. gasless expand. It's so popular nowdays and it'd be interesting to see how this build fares in comparison to the many other builds which almost all get nexus after 17 (with the exception of the 15 nexus...which I see axslav do often?)
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On September 08 2012 17:03 Ea wrote:
Would really like to see a replay vs. gasless expand. It's so popular nowdays and it'd be interesting to see how this build fares in comparison to the many other builds which almost all get nexus after 17 (with the exception of the 15 nexus...which I see axslav do often?)
Like mentioned above, you will be ahead because terran can't put any pressure on to you and you have so much chronoboosts for probes.
Just play it yourself then you have a replay for it.
Or anyone please post a replay vs. gasless fe?
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