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Ruyn1
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Last Edited: 2012-04-26 11:01:14
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April 25 2012 10:22 GMT
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skirmisheR
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Sweden451 Posts
April 25 2012 10:34 GMT
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Zerg armor upgrade vs protoss can be awesome since you won't get raped by +1 zealots (who two-shots zerglings), I think armor can be really good against terran as well but I usually just get two evo chambers and get either ranged+carapace vP and melee+carapace vT.

What do you mean by actives/passives?

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VoirDire
Profile Joined February 2009
Sweden1923 Posts
April 25 2012 10:41 GMT
#4
Hola! Una cerveza por favor, no habla espaniol. Taco bell.

My 2 pesetas:

Against zerg you'd want ranged attack upgrades for roaches.
Against terran you'd want armor upgrade first for your lings, then melee from a second evolution chamber.
Against protoss you'd want 1 ranged attack for roaches in the midgame, then melee/armor to prepare for the late game. I also use 2 spires to upgrade my brood lords in the late-late game. I tend to build 3 evo chambers and upgrade everything.

Hasta la vista, baby.
kingsleigh
Profile Joined January 2012
United States32 Posts
April 25 2012 10:41 GMT
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On April 25 2012 19:34 skirmisheR wrote:
Zerg armor upgrade vs protoss can be awesome since you won't get raped by +1 zealots (who two-shots zerglings), I think armor can be really good against terran as well but I usually just get two evo chambers and get either ranged+carapace vP and melee+carapace vT.

What do you mean by actives/passives?


Maybe Pathogen Glands vs Neural? Though it doesn't make sense why he would ask about those in SC2.
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Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia88 Posts
April 25 2012 10:48 GMT
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=17883

Rule 7.
PlasticBrain
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany9 Posts
April 25 2012 10:48 GMT
#7
ZvZ:
If u are going standard roach/hydra or roach/infestor usually range attack upgrade is all you need.
The sooner the better, get it when you can afford it.
If u are going Zergling/ Infestor into fast Ultralist you want double upgrades (melee/ carapace) to avoid getting owned by roaches (roaches with +1 upgrade 2-shot Zerglings without armor Upgrade)

ZvP:
Many different styles here.
I think we can call roaches THE standard unit to go with in current ZvP, so range attack is what u want ofc.
In a standard scenario with Protoss going FFE into gatewaypush, you might want to delay the first attack Upgrade until the push is defended.
Some Pro's use to go very fast +1 carapace to make Zerglings more viable in defending these gatewaypushes with Zealots, as it takes Zealots 3 hits to kill a Zergling, but 2 if they are ahead by 1 upgrade.
Imho you shouldnt really care about going double evo vs Protoss until lategame.

ZvT:
Ling/ Infestor > Ofc super greedy with upgrades, you never want to have your double evo's sitting around doing nothing, in a perfect world you want to hit 3/3 at 12-15 minutes.
Ling/Bling/Muta > While upgrades are still important, you might want to delay them to get out enough Banelings to defend or to get out mor Mutas to harass. I usually favor melee upgrades over air upgrades as soon as i have +1 attack for my Mutalisks, but you might see some Pro's do it other way round.

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In the end i want to say that learning SC2 works best watching Pro's games and just adapting their playstyles. Just knowing some basic things about upgrades wont push you to Masterleague.
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Ruyn1
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