EPT[G] Bronze to Masters, Improving Mechanics - Page 64
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Box Score Brian
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vrumFondel
Russian Federation42 Posts
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vahgar.r24
India465 Posts
On March 28 2013 13:58 tbirdd wrote: It's not bugged. It works just fine. I checked bronze, silver & gold mode. Here is a screenshot of gold: ![[image loading]](http://s15.postimg.org/zbwjuz86f/filtersc_trainer_3.jpg) Tried checking language settings in variable.txt it is english only..cant seem to find the solution  | ||
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ILosethenOP
United States25 Posts
The craziest part? I still have MASSIVE room for improvement. The new openings are still not ingrained. The timing differences have screwed up my scv production. I will likely take a good chunk of time now just focusing on one opening and getting it down pat (probably the 15 gas reacotred rax open - I like the early rines for defense and widow mines, plus it ties nicely into a 4 widow mine drop). Thank you so much filter. Until I found your series in WoL I played a very gimmicky style reliant on some cheesy ass tank timings. It would work against bronze-gold. However, solid macro players with any brains shut it down HARD. I had no idea how to build an economy or think long term. Though I never moved up a league in WoL my mechanics became much much better. Now in HOTS, though my scv production has faltered due to new opens, my general mechanics in other departments help me win games. | ||
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Michal
Canada51 Posts
On March 26 2013 16:34 OneBaseKing wrote: Ur videos don't work in korean servers cuz everyone fucking cheeses everytime, any help someone please, I used to be masters in NA but I'm only silver, please someone help me out because no one around me is willing to help me out please message me please please help me The idea is to learn the standard play and counter the cheeses. If you have such problems with cheeses, I think you should: 1. Identify what cheeses are used against you 2. Learn how they work, e.g. timings+compositions and what scouting information can help you identify them 3. Learn how to counter them with the builds you currently use For example, if you play terran gasless FE and get 4-gated a lot: 1. The cheese is 4 gate - 1 early gas, 4 gates, usually proxy pylon 2. IIRC the 4-gate comes around 7 minutes with a mix of Zealots and stalkers from a proxy pylon. You can anticipate it if you spot 1 gas in his main, no FE, 2 pylons (3rd being proxy'd) and high nexus energy (which is saved for gateways to make units later on). You're looking for all this around the 4-4:30 minute mark. 3. In such case, once you spot the information, you would still do your regular FE build but would immediately throw down 3 bunkers and keep SCVs close by to repair them. You should be able to repel the attack and use your macro advantage to overwhelm him in a counter attack So you're still focusing on your standard play, making SCVs, managing macro but make slight adjustments based on what you observe. It'll take a while to recognize all cheeses and learn how to counter them with your builds but it'll pay off, you'll see. | ||
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Gavatron
Canada13 Posts
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Ashzeriam
3 Posts
I absolutely feel like these are great for learning mechanics at the macro level. The entire focus is less about strategy and more about making sure you have a solid backing so you can execute any strategy very smoothly. | ||
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SeileGau
Germany8 Posts
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probeater
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Filter
Canada620 Posts
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ShaolinZorg
Belgium47 Posts
I would like to gather as much information to have to most accurate benchmark while waiting hte video tutorial 10 minutes : - 2 bases with 60 probes - third expand started I do the 2nd expand around 4'30 I also expressed my difficulty to warpin units, I don't exactly know how to handle this while macroing effectively; I often fall behind my opponent because warpin is much more difficult than queing; I understand that I had to focus on warpin unit and less micro managing what I would like to know is what buildings should i ideally have at this time mark (I usually go robo for observer) | ||
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Juvator
Netherlands199 Posts
On March 30 2013 19:07 Filter wrote: Hey guys, just wanted to check in on the thread and say that I love reading stories about the improvement people seek. I also wanted to add that I'll be updating the thread for hots (probably just make a new). I dont want to add it too early though with minimal content, has to be at the point where there's a solid hots foundation in place. I'm sooo looking forward to that Filter  Right now I don't even care about using the new units too much until I get these fundamentals right. So for now I've got enough food for practice, but still I can't wait :D I appreciate all the work u have done, u made learning Starcraft 2 much more fun. | ||
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probeater
124 Posts
On March 30 2013 19:46 ShaolinZorg wrote: I watched filter's stream this morning and asked him about protoss benchmark, here is what he said : I would like to gather as much information to have to most accurate benchmark while waiting hte video tutorial 10 minutes : - 2 bases with 60 probes - third expand started I do the 2nd expand around 4'30 I also expressed my difficulty to warpin units, I don't exactly know how to handle this while macroing effectively; I often fall behind my opponent because warpin is much more difficult than queing; I understand that I had to focus on warpin unit and less micro managing what I would like to know is what buildings should i ideally have at this time mark (I usually go robo for observer) honestly, you will almost never get 60 probes...first of all its kinda too much, because sometimes you need to cut probes to hold early aggression, or whatever the reason. but i'd say you should just follow 1 basic build for each matchup, for example, pvp 3stalker rush is very safe and can take you into a macro game, pvt double forge => collosus, and pvz 4gate robo. theres also the fact that you cant really have continuous production, since again, toss builds always cut on something. really you need benchmarks for each matchup, because you cant do the same opening against all 3 races. but if you are struggling with warpins and the like, i suggest while you wait for the toss videos, check out TheStaircase guide. you start at the first level by making only zealots and using up all your chrono, not getting supply blocked, hitting warp ins etc., it really helps to ingrain those basic mechanics. alternatively, if you watch day9, in one of his older newbie tuesdays, he talked about focusing on one thing at a time. if your not hitting warpins, for the next 5 games focus only on hitting warpins every time till your good at it. these are just some tips that helped me and i use them, hopefully it will help you with your warp-in mechanics. (im also patiently waiting for toss videos) | ||
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KamiDaHobo
United States10 Posts
I'm excited, as this is giving me something to focus on, rather than 'winging it' as I had a tendency of doing. My normal time supply-capped during 15 minute games would be around 2 minutes, but after practicing the very first lesson, it's down to less than 20 seconds for the same game length! I'm blown away by how much just focusing on building scvs and supply depots really helps. I can hit supply cap by 16 minutes now, which is unbelievable! | ||
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Shieldsy
United Kingdom2 Posts
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apeiro
United States27 Posts
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Allenansgar
United States31 Posts
Keep up the good work! | ||
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Diaresta
United States597 Posts
Edit: Really odd picture resolution haha | ||
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Ninjury_J
Canada408 Posts
I was very impressed by your general ideas on thinking about improving and mindset while playing starcraft. I am a plat zerg; I am wondering how I can focus only on injects in order to satisfy the idea of trying to improve one thing at a time. It seems difficult to do, since clearly you need to be doing other things like making drones/units/overlords and scouting. I am wondering if you have any tips on this topic. Thanks for the help, Ninjury P.S. Are you planning on making protoss or zerg videos next? | ||
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BBoyXELAnt
United States22 Posts
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