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On April 20 2012 11:23 Raymano wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2012 21:24 decaf wrote:
Terran hotkeys I picked IMMvp's set. I know many people say pick what suits you the most, but honestly, if IMMvp managed to get that good with the way he hotkeys it's proven it's possible. Just get used to it and it is what "suits" you. I don't believe there's better hotkey layouts, they're all the same (unless you fuck them up on purpose).
. what's MVP's hotkey layout? im really interested =D
Basically it looks like this in the midgame:
1, 2 army
3 raxes
4 facs
5 starports
6 CCs
7 ebays (not sure if he does it but I do)
Mvp has actually very few army hotkeys, most of the time his main army isn't even hotkeyed if you watch closely, he will have dropships on there or something like that.
In matchups I don't use all facilities like TvP or with mech I do 1-3 army and 4raxes, 5ports for instance.
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Hi decaf, very good guide! One question about mechanics, how did you get better at being precise with your mouse? Out of curiosity, what is your DPI set to? A lot of people have some insane high DPI and I am not even sure how they can click so well -.-
I've tried 1600 dpi with the windows settings on 6, but can't seem to be very accurate. I would like to play around there, but right now I seem to have good control @ 1200-1300 DPI.
Thanks!
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I totally agree with this thread! There are so many things you can do at once to improve. I don't think you have to work on everything at once but focusing on one thing at atime is what really helped me. Im a 1v1 silver league Terran player. Lately ive been on a 12/15 game win streak. Large part is due to upgrades. I was terrible at getting my units upgraded. But lately i have decided to fucus on getting 3-3 as early as i can. Now i am focusing on trying to expand earlier while not stopping scv production.
Very well written!
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On April 21 2012 02:25 dotCom wrote:
Hi decaf, very good guide! One question about mechanics, how did you get better at being precise with your mouse? Out of curiosity, what is your DPI set to? A lot of people have some insane high DPI and I am not even sure how they can click so well -.-
I've tried 1600 dpi with the windows settings on 6, but can't seem to be very accurate. I would like to play around there, but right now I seem to have good control @ 1200-1300 DPI.
Thanks!
Hey,
my dpi is set to 1800, on windows I got 6/11 and ingame I got 51% (my screen has 24 inches). I used to have about 81% with higher dpi a few months ago, reducing that insane speed helped me being more precise quite a bit. It didn't even take me long to get used to it, because it felt so natural, like only a couple of games. I think you should play at the highest speed you're comfortable at, if it's too fast, reduce it. 1200dpi sounds fine, too (I wouldn't go any lower, though).
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I'd like to ask a question to expand on your concept of practice partners more.
I'm a gold Toss who just switched to Terran. I think I am capable of doing what you have mentioned, but I'm not sure if I can get someone that's about my level in Terran. Do you think it's better to play people your level, or do you think that playing against masters would be beneficial? The guide is great btw thanks.
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On April 21 2012 02:25 dotCom wrote:
Hi decaf, very good guide! One question about mechanics, how did you get better at being precise with your mouse? Out of curiosity, what is your DPI set to? A lot of people have some insane high DPI and I am not even sure how they can click so well -.-
I've tried 1600 dpi with the windows settings on 6, but can't seem to be very accurate. I would like to play around there, but right now I seem to have good control @ 1200-1300 DPI.
Thanks!
On 1920x1200 resolution I would recomend 5000 CPI. Might take you a few days to adapt. Most people who use my computer think I am insane. Also you _HAVE_ to read and apply this. http://donewmouseaccel.blogspot.se/2010/03/markc-windows-7-mouse-acceleration-fix.html
Because in windows there is a bug where you cannot turn off acceleration by turning off acceleration. Unless you apply the fix above.
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Your guide makes a lot of sense for someone who is already good at the game. Doing what you described is great for taking a person hanging around in platinum or diamond and helping them to go up a league.
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On April 21 2012 14:53 9-BiT wrote:
I'd like to ask a question to expand on your concept of practice partners more.
I'm a gold Toss who just switched to Terran. I think I am capable of doing what you have mentioned, but I'm not sure if I can get someone that's about my level in Terran. Do you think it's better to play people your level, or do you think that playing against masters would be beneficial? The guide is great btw thanks.
Actually, the best practice partner for you would probably be a Platinum player, if you have the choice. You want a player who usually beats you, but not always: You'll learn more from a Platinum than getting your ass constantly handed to you by a Master player. Gold over Master if those are your choices though.
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On April 21 2012 14:53 9-BiT wrote:
I'd like to ask a question to expand on your concept of practice partners more.
I'm a gold Toss who just switched to Terran. I think I am capable of doing what you have mentioned, but I'm not sure if I can get someone that's about my level in Terran. Do you think it's better to play people your level, or do you think that playing against masters would be beneficial? The guide is great btw thanks.
By the time you should be looking for practice partners you already improved a bunch, people underestimated how much of a boost practicing a build order in a relieved environment actually gives. If you always know what step comes next up to 10 minutes and then know how the mid and late game should look like in general (how much production you can support) you already are at masters level (if you don't supply block yourself every 10 seconds and have some grasp at micro). If you are satisfied with what you do in those build order test maps go get them practice partners (if you figure you didn't know your build well enough just go back to the build order map and practice it a little more).
Just try it out, go for a diamond guy and see how well you can do. Then get a masters guy. I wouldn't go lower than diamond though, because people in the lower leagues don't play builds you can accout for.
The only thing you need to worry about is cheese, because that takes a little more experience to fend off and you will get a few losses from that against lesser players. But just stick to what the pro does, copy expand timings, movement of units, build order etc.
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Great guide  I have one question though.Would you recommend to copy the timing of the 3rd for example even though it really depends on a lot of things (for example if the opponent expands a lot, makes pressure...)? I'd really like to see an example of a stolen build so I know what you write down and how you do it.
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On April 21 2012 18:08 Gomox wrote:Great guide I have one question though.Would you recommend to copy the timing of the 3rd for example even though it really depends on a lot of things (for example if the opponent expands a lot, makes pressure...)? I'd really like to see an example of a stolen build so I know what you write down and how you do it.
No, I filter out mistakes that occur in the replay. If the pro's macro slips and he takes his expo at 700 instead of at 400 minerals I'm not gonna copy that.
Added an example to the OP under the Pick one build order for that matchup from a well-established pro-section.
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Don't you think that it limits your gameplay and prevents a reactionary game style if you copy a build up until the 10 minute mark? Or do you use these building just as goals that you want to reach? Like: Ok, he attacked me early. However, I still know that I want to get 3 gates and a robo down.
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On April 21 2012 19:54 Gomox wrote:
Don't you think that it limits your gameplay and prevents a reactionary game style if you copy a build up until the 10 minute mark? Or do you use these building just as goals that you want to reach? Like: Ok, he attacked me early. However, I still know that I want to get 3 gates and a robo down.
Of course, if you scout something like a roach rush with your hellions you want to make a marauder asap and throw down a bunker. Generally those builds account for most of the things plus most people play standard anyways, because there's a reason why certain strategies are standard.
If you scout something significant you gotta deviate your build if it doesn't accout for it already. Just be smart about what you do. If going back to your build is the rigtht solution after fending off such a roach rush (for instance) then do it, if you can win the game right now then do that.
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I think you're definitely on the right track when you talk about choosing a matchup to focus on. I personally despise ladder practice simply because you can't choose the matchup. It's much better to spend a few hours straight focusing on one matchup at a time, which is why it's so important to stay good mannered when you ladder and ask the skilled players that you face for tips / practice.
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Well nice guide ty ! I just got a question. I, myself, improve on my own too by only doing one or two builds per matchup and react properly.
My main problem i think is my apm. At the start of the game my apm is huge cause i know well my build and i spam but midgame i got smtgh like 80-90 apm which i find really low (High diamond). Do you have some advices or tricks to improve this ?
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On April 22 2012 02:28 Serge89 wrote:
Well nice guide ty ! I just got a question. I, myself, improve on my own too by only doing one or two builds per matchup and react properly.
My main problem i think is my apm. At the start of the game my apm is huge cause i know well my build and i spam but midgame i got smtgh like 80-90 apm which i find really low (High diamond). Do you have some advices or tricks to improve this ?
The only way to up your apm is by playing a ton. If you know your build really well you don't have to spend time on thinking about the next step. If you have the entire game mapped out in your head you can focus on following that map as quickly as possible. Just stay focused and try to get useful actions inbetween the actions needed to play your build order. If you send your SCV to build a CC, cycle through your buildings, check minimap, try to stack SCVs on close mineral patches whatever.
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Thank you very much for this :D I'm going to work like this and comment on the results
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I think though that u should watch every replay, atleast where you lost.. You will ALWAYS find stuff to improve,that you wouldnt have found if u didnt watch it.. Nice guide though,. really!
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Really really nice writeup!
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my biggest problem with this is PvZ as it feels like all the code S players do is just 2base allin the zergs rather than go for macro play :/
that said it's kinda hard overall for me to find replays of really good players in sc2
bw was a lot easier on that due to the replays bar on the left side of teamliquid
where do you suggest i find some replays (specifically of PvZ macro play or PvP in general)
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