How many drones is too many drones? - Page 2
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3DGlaDOS
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discobaas
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Carapas
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On January 13 2012 01:57 Vul wrote: That's helpful, I have another question for you if you don't mind, how do you quickly determine that you have enough drones? Do you just go through and count? Yeah, pretty much. What I do is simply box the whole area around the hatch, and quickly look if there's a queen and overlords there, then I subtract that number and look how many bars I get. 1 bar is 8 units, so you want 2 full bars of drones of your minerals, then about 4 more (½ bar) since 2 drones should be inside the gas. I'm just platinum though so I don't think it's overly important if I'm over/under saturated by 1-2 drones, so I'm not too exact. I box it all, estimate how much "extra crap" outside of drones I got, then aim for about 20 drones at each base, which should be close to perfect saturation. | ||
Xorphene
United Kingdom492 Posts
3 fully saturated bases and the gas taken at a fourth is great for T3 unit production. The above example gives you 78,so yeah. | ||
Cyro
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Skytt
Scotland333 Posts
On January 13 2012 03:02 Xorphene wrote: Think 75 is a good number. 3 fully saturated bases and the gas taken at a fourth is great for T3 unit production. The above example gives you 78,so yeah. I try to get to this, as well as getting the gas on any additional bases set up asap. | ||
FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On January 13 2012 01:56 Kitzz wrote: Nestea said Zerg doesn't need more than 60 drones. I think he said that only applies to ZvZ in explaining why Idra lost to him at MLG. I like 75 myself. | ||
CryMore
United States497 Posts
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lhr0909
United States562 Posts
On January 13 2012 01:57 Vul wrote: I think if you guys are going to argue about whether Ret said 70 or 90 drones, someone needs to post a link. Those of us who don't know are curious haha. Does anyone know for sure? That's helpful, I have another question for you if you don't mind, how do you quickly determine that you have enough drones? Do you just go through and count? Double click on the drones around the hatch. If you count 2 full rows + 4, you are good. That puts it to 16 on 8 patches and 3 per gas (2 is hidden in the geysers at all times) | ||
KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
On January 13 2012 01:56 Kitzz wrote: Nestea said Zerg doesn't need more than 60 drones. I have a hard time believing this...that's not even full saturation on three base. 66 is a minum imo, upper limit is 90. Anything more and you are just insane or Nestea. In my own games, I find myself hovering around 70-75, which I actually feel is not quite enough at times. Perhaps 80 is good? | ||
diophan
United States1018 Posts
On January 13 2012 03:39 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: I think he said that only applies to ZvZ in explaining why Idra lost to him at MLG. I like 75 myself. Yes Artosis mentioned this a couple nights ago during GSL. He was specifically referring to ZvZ. | ||
Bippzy
United States1466 Posts
Otherwise, the vibe im getting is that if an engagement won't be for a while, you can go up to 90 drones. Otherwise, 70 should be just fine, allowing for a good army supply | ||
UmiNotsuki
United States633 Posts
Really, I tend to make my strategy around my economy and not the other way around. Maybe that's not the best advice but it works for me ![]() | ||
prowala
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snexwang
Australia224 Posts
How many drones is too many drones? Sorry, I don't understand the question.Is it a riddle? | ||
Catgroove
Sweden67 Posts
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RaiZ
2813 Posts
Anyway you can perfectly make roach non stop, It doesn't really matter imo. I don't think Nestea said that it was a rule that you needed to follow closely... | ||
darkscream
Canada2310 Posts
For example, you can bloat up to about 100 right before you go for brood lords. Once you're ready to start morphing corruptors, you're committing to a "slow" army so you need static defense, you can drop 10+ spines to knock your drone count down to something more reasonable. I don't think there's a set amount you should just "go for", rather, each period of the game has an ideal number, it goes up and down depending what your strategy is. If you're using a style that involves a lot of suicide/reproduction, I think more drones is better. If you're using a style that involves a lot of expensive units you want to upgrade and retain, lower drone counts are better. Strategically using your "Bank" in the endgame is a skill even the best zergs in the world haven't truly mapped out yet. Keep in mind, "Lower" means around 75 at lowest, and "higher" means around 100 at highest. | ||
ebs
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Times where I will go more than 2-per-patch: - Saturating the gold to have 3 on the far patches, because the extra boost from the gold makes up for the lost mining efficiency of over-saturation - I can't take an extra base yet (ie vs T when my mutas are out of position to defend or something) or my next base isn't up yet and I'm prepping the drones | ||
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