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KaienFEMC
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada127 Posts
September 26 2011 12:08 GMT
#61
I believe he meant the timing before opponent's speed upgrade finishes while he has his own speed lings out on the field.
LXB3
Profile Joined August 2011
China23 Posts
September 26 2011 12:11 GMT
#62
On September 26 2011 21:08 KaienFEMC wrote:
I believe he meant the timing before opponent's speed upgrade finishes while he has his own speed lings out on the field.

ICIC ,thank you
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CeRipH
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom23 Posts
September 26 2011 13:03 GMT
#63
On September 25 2011 03:04 Reptilia wrote:
why are there so many cool zerg players that provide awesome content to community but not Terran/protoss!!


I always wonder this, although as I play zerg myself I don't really question it too much

It does seem like zerg players like to help eachother more though from what I've seen.

As for the OP: great post, some things I definitely will take on board.
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Shadrak
Profile Joined August 2010
United States490 Posts
September 26 2011 14:13 GMT
#64
OK I played around with doing this pretty much exclusively vs Terrans this weekend and at my level (1.1k Masters) I've found it to be quite effective.

I even ended up playing the same Terran 3 times in a row on ladder and beat him all 3 times with it. By the 3rd MU he knew it was coming, bunkered and had mauraders but using OL vision I still sniped 2 supply depots, several repairing SCVs and then just camped his natural while expanding and droning like crazy. While he held the push off, he came out behind in the end.

There was not a single game I played where I came out behind from doing it.
DuncanIdaho
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States465 Posts
September 26 2011 15:39 GMT
#65
Nice thread!
I was curious about the name of the style of play you gave yourself, "避实击虚", and had to look it up. So according to Google's translation, 避实击虚 translates to english as "to avoid virtual strike". :p

Anyone have a way to explain this translation? I'm slightly confused, but it seems to be meaning a passive style? Though I'm not certain.
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targ
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Malaysia445 Posts
September 26 2011 16:49 GMT
#66
"避实击虚" means you avoid the strong points of the enemy, instead attacking the weak spots. Avoiding a head-on clash in other words.
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rawrss
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada29 Posts
September 26 2011 18:43 GMT
#67
For vs. T, what's the fastest time hellions (not BF upgraded) could enter a Zerg base? Would they be able to get hellions into your base by the 4:50~4:55mark and harass before the roaches pop?

Is there a forum thread that has this?
Marine = x.xx
Marauder = x.xx
Hellion = x.xx
Banshee = x.xx
etc. etc.

(sorry, newer player here)


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Shadrak
Profile Joined August 2010
United States490 Posts
September 26 2011 21:46 GMT
#68
On September 27 2011 03:43 rawrss wrote:
For vs. T, what's the fastest time hellions (not BF upgraded) could enter a Zerg base? Would they be able to get hellions into your base by the 4:50~4:55mark and harass before the roaches pop?

Is there a forum thread that has this?
Marine = x.xx
Marauder = x.xx
Hellion = x.xx
Banshee = x.xx
etc. etc.

(sorry, newer player here)




I can only speak from experience and say I have never had hellions AT my base at that time. Rushing for hellions usually results in them popping at a similar time to when your roaches pop. This means you will typically meet them on the way to T's base (usually close to his than yours). Strangely every T that I've encountered then pulls them back to defend instead of trying to get some drone harass in. Of course they do absolutely nothing to roaches though.
dejeseAI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Mexico32 Posts
September 27 2011 05:31 GMT
#69
Thank you very much for taking the time to write down these strategies, i really feel zerg should not be a passive race but its hard to take control of the field withouth risking much, your strategies help us find the appropiate way to control de battlefield.

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Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
September 27 2011 05:48 GMT
#70
I really like early roaches in ZvT, but I feel you really can 15 hatch into roaches and come out in a better situation economically and still be safe versus any terran 1 base. Roaches come out in time to deal with any terran 1 base tech/push (besides 2 rax, obviously) and really gives you safety to take a quick third (if the terran is early expanding) off only 5 or so larvae worth of roaches so you're not vulnerable to a lot of the timings someone designed to kill roaching zvt players.

Just a though, but I think it's pretty strong. Sheth does it a lot, and even though his zvt isn't the best, I think his opening is really good.
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CreepyNA
Profile Joined September 2011
United States106 Posts
October 02 2011 14:15 GMT
#71
Thx very much for the strategies It has helped to improve my play alot! I no longer fear ZvZ xD And have a nice build for smaller maps zvp and zvt. Also, I'm just wondering if you will be updating this and put some more info under the other replays at the end?
Haters gonna hate
iglocska
Profile Joined May 2011
Norway589 Posts
October 02 2011 15:00 GMT
#72
Sweet guide, thanks a lot
citizenleaf
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States14 Posts
October 02 2011 15:31 GMT
#73
Very good guide =D. Been playing this opening in ZvT and ZvP to great success, rarely does my opponent think i can recover from what most of them call "noob all in". They are always surprised to see my third finishing as they finally get into a comfortable position to take their natural. (high plat-mid diamond level) Again great guide and keep it up man =D
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KenZo-
Profile Joined December 2010
Faroe Islands190 Posts
October 02 2011 22:19 GMT
#74
LXB3, can u share how a "foreigner" easiest could buy play time on the CN server ?

Thanks for the nice write up.

Keep it up.
ePAttack
Profile Joined September 2010
United States112 Posts
October 02 2011 22:22 GMT
#75
Watching replays now !

Thanks for the guide !
Sapp
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland173 Posts
October 05 2011 15:11 GMT
#76
agresive... agresive is good ^^'
Quote? O.o?
LXB3
Profile Joined August 2011
China23 Posts
January 07 2012 12:30 GMT
#77
updated on 2012.1.7~ I'll continue to add some pictures.
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Coledash
Profile Joined April 2011
Finland23 Posts
January 15 2012 14:19 GMT
#78
Thanks for the awesome guide! Keep working on it please
z_VirutosoOOv
Profile Joined January 2012
2 Posts
January 15 2012 16:33 GMT
#79
nice guide, thx for it, also savior's playstyle is awesome - learn it every1 :D
Hello is there anybody in there??
nicke10
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden114 Posts
January 15 2012 19:00 GMT
#80
On January 16 2012 01:33 z_VirutosoOOv wrote:
nice guide, thx for it, also savior's playstyle is awesome - learn it every1 :D


Savior?
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