EPTBut isnt 13pool worse economically than 11overpool? Is it because of larvae timings?
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00Visor
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But isnt 13pool worse economically than 11overpool? Is it because of larvae timings? | ||
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
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Reptilia
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On September 25 2011 03:04 Reptilia wrote: why are there so many cool zerg players that provide awesome content to community but not Terran/protoss!! We zergs have a natural feeling of wanting to help. There is a reason we are called the swarm! We hear a plea, we help each other with guides, comments, etc.  | ||
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Shadrak
United States490 Posts
On September 25 2011 03:06 blade55555 wrote: We zergs have a natural feeling of wanting to help. There is a reason we are called the swarm! We hear a plea, we help each other with guides, comments, etc. I'm curious to see your feedback about this build, Blade, as your other threads have been very helpful to my ZvT and ZvP. I've played around with it a bit. The push is definitely not going to do any damage against a T who is gearing up for an early timing, but imagine the roaches would help defensively in that sort of situation. My only mains concern is that 15 Hatch being so common, many Ts will see a pool first build and plan to bunker preemptively. In that case the only damage you are likely to do is sniping a couple of depots outside of the bunker range, but that hardly seems worth the sacrifice in econ. That said, GM Terrans don't see it coming I doubt my mid-masters opponents will. | ||
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warblob004
United States198 Posts
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kilergrunt
United States263 Posts
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DW-Unrec
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Works only if you play vs someone that doesnt scout. If he sees the roaches its game over. 1 marauder + 2 bunkers its gg. Considering most diamonds~grand masters scout the opponent. Hellions also are good scouts, the "2 lings early deny any scouting" is invalid. 1 minute later 2~4 hellions are at your ramp ready to roast and scout. | ||
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Eee
Sweden2712 Posts
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Paperplane
Netherlands1823 Posts
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ManiacTheZealot
United States490 Posts
On September 25 2011 07:01 DW-Unrec wrote: This strategy is invalid. Works only if you play vs someone that doesnt scout. If he sees the roaches its game over. 1 marauder + 2 bunkers its gg. Considering most diamonds~grand masters scout the opponent. Hellions also are good scouts, the "2 lings early deny any scouting" is invalid. 1 minute later 2~4 hellions are at your ramp ready to roast and scout. I somewhat agree with this vs terran. Hellions won't be there in time but if the terran gets an scv near your natural at around 3 minutes and doesn't see an expansion that is going to be enough information for him if he's smart. And it's not really hard to get another scv out there against slow zerglings. I did like it against protoss though. Protoss standard builds are all very weak to it and they need to change their build a lot to react to it. That really takes control of the game for the zerg and I like that. Much like 7 pooling into a macro game on a forge fast expand map. I think this is a good build for xel'naga caverns or any other map with a wide open natural where forge fast expand isn't easy to do. | ||
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evanthebouncy!
United States12796 Posts
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LXB3
China23 Posts
On September 25 2011 07:01 DW-Unrec wrote: This strategy is invalid. Works only if you play vs someone that doesnt scout. If he sees the roaches its game over. 1 marauder + 2 bunkers its gg. Considering most diamonds~grand masters scout the opponent. Hellions also are good scouts, the "2 lings early deny any scouting" is invalid. 1 minute later 2~4 hellions are at your ramp ready to roast and scout. I've pointed out that the 7 roach strat is not suitable at a big map,because terran player will scout and have enough time to react.But in the short-distance map,7 roach is really quick(4:55).The main purpose is to scout terran's tech through pushing,not to rush and win the game,which also makes you safe to expand your natural.If he goes for marauder,it's ok.You can just stay in his natural and delay his expansion.Back to your home,you can drone safely and upgrade speedlings or whatever.You can estimate the combination of his amry by pushing.But he is blind,he don't know whether you'll keeping pushing or you've throw down your second and drone hard.Some 4 raxes is very hard to handle though,you should go for speedlings and banelings.After the 1.40,i believe most terran will go for hellions,right? | ||
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LXB3
China23 Posts
On September 25 2011 09:34 evanthebouncy! wrote: looks solid. I love ur late game hahaha, 狗B ftw!! You know what"狗B“mean?It's a "F" word in chinese,hah | ||
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FluXen
Canada210 Posts
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World_Ender
China40 Posts
On September 25 2011 03:06 blade55555 wrote: We zergs have a natural feeling of wanting to help. There is a reason we are called the swarm! We hear a plea, we help each other with guides, comments, etc. Hahah. This is true! FOR THE SWARM! Also, to refer to a few other posts by people... China's SC2 community is growing by leaps and bounds... I've lived here for half a year and already gone to a few minor tournaments, with cash prizes, filled with loads of chinese players... They still aren't on the level of Korea, though. | ||
ZeromuS
Canada13389 Posts
On September 25 2011 03:04 Reptilia wrote: why are there so many cool zerg players that provide awesome content to community but not Terran/protoss!! you should check out the help me thread its the best protoss resource out there On topic: Cool looking guide ill have to watch the ZvP replays so I dont die to this myself on ladder lol . | ||
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Xanbatou
United States805 Posts
EDIT: Also, I've been using that ZvZ strategy for a while, and it HAS serves me well. Unfortunately, I ran into a problem when I used it against a 15 hatch opening that just made a bunch of slow lings, built 2 spine crawlers at his natural expansion, and put all his lings and queens on the ramp while he waited for them to finish. There didn't seem to be a whole lot I could do =/ | ||
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iMMortaL.797
United States94 Posts
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Rasun
United States787 Posts
P.S. Your English was very good. ^^ | ||
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