EPTNow get started on a ZvP guide so that I will be UNSTOPPABLE
Zerg versus Terran: Everything I know - Page 2
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Jojo131
Brazil1631 Posts
Now get started on a ZvP guide so that I will be UNSTOPPABLE | ||
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Zergalicious
United States29 Posts
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Chaosvuistje
Netherlands2581 Posts
On September 05 2011 01:30 Asday wrote: Reading through your guide now, and there're a couple spelling/grammar mistakes that bug me. >: Last time, TheCrazyOne gave me a full list of typo's. The guide is so vast that I don't really go through it just to fix a couple of lingual mistakes. But if you would be so kind to read the thousands of words to get the typo's, I would be very grateful <3 | ||
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AtlasJQ
Canada138 Posts
On September 05 2011 01:30 Asday wrote: Reading through your guide now, and there're a couple spelling/grammar mistakes that bug me. >: English is his second language, his grammar and spelling is phenomenal when taken in context. | ||
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Asday
United Kingdom388 Posts
On September 05 2011 04:25 AtlasJQ wrote: English is his second language, his grammar and spelling is phenomenal when taken in context. I deeply apologise, I have nothing but respect for those dedicated and intelligent enough to learn a second language. On September 05 2011 02:02 Chaosvuistje wrote: Last time, TheCrazyOne gave me a full list of typo's. The guide is so vast that I don't really go through it just to fix a couple of lingual mistakes. But if you would be so kind to read the thousands of words to get the typo's, I would be very grateful <3 I shall do so over the next few hours, I apologise for any offense caused. | ||
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Chaosvuistje
Netherlands2581 Posts
On September 05 2011 04:30 Asday wrote: I deeply apologise, I have nothing but respect for those dedicated and intelligent enough to learn a second language. I shall do so over the next few hours, I apologise for any offense caused. No worries, only 6 puppies were injured and just one passed away. All in all a good day, the pile would have been a lot bigger if I had laddered today and got a lot of vP's . All jokes aside, no offense was taken. I don't mind people telling me that there are spelling mistakes. Besides, English is hardly a second language for me like any other language would be for a native english speaker. There's tons of english content on the internet and on TV to learn it at an early age. Nevertheless, it never hurts to learn some more. The last 'spellcheck sheet' I was handed taught me a lot  | ||
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AtlasJQ
Canada138 Posts
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Oboeman
Canada3980 Posts
I'd like to renforce that when going zergling infestor, it's not all about the infestors, zerglings are actually amazing. It's important to use multiple control groups for flanking, defending drops, and harassing, and when you have a ton of lings there is no excuse not to have them burrowed all over the map for scouting. Pretty much any 2 base terran push that hits before the 11 minute mark can be held by pure zerglings, as long as you flank and don't overdrone (44 drone 2 base saturation is perfectly safe, you can get away with more). There are a few heavy BFH pushes where you want other units (often ling + queens are enough), but in general, lings have got you covered. Any push that comes after the 11 minute mark you have your infestors, so it's a lot less scary. I consider it to be basically a free win if the terran does a big timing attack, because they cannot hold onto their third after losing their whole army, and I can double expand. Terran players who keep their army alive and continue expanding turn it into a real game. Drops aren't too scary when you have your lings in multiple groups and a well-positioned spore crawler at the most vulnerable expansions. Probably the most annoying thing a terran can do against ling infestor is make a viking or two and kill overlords, but you can still spot for drops with lings sometimes, until you regain air control. Zergling drops are a great tool against a terran who expands passively without throwing away his army. | ||
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nttea
Sweden4353 Posts
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thegiantirishman
United States18 Posts
On September 05 2011 00:53 poorcloud wrote: This infestor thing will be countered soon enough when terran players start getting 2 - 3 stray banshees to snipe infestors. In fact, i don't even understand why pro terran players don't do this now. Think of it like a mech t v t, the hero banshee wins the day. Infestors will fungal and or throw infested marines at the banshees, as well as, burrow and such to avoid them. Ghosts, on the other hand, are a pretty nasty counter to infestors. | ||
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Swissky
Ireland26 Posts
I have a hard time remembering even the popular 1 base timings for Terran, so this is super useful. | ||
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michaelhasanalias
Korea (South)1231 Posts
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dARThraider
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Chaosvuistje
Netherlands2581 Posts
Thors that are neural parasited can be /danced, but that is not all. If they are /danced right at the end of the neural parasite, they will dance until the animation is finished regardless of whether or not the Thor is in terrans hands again. Which means the Thor is out of action for a good 4 more seconds for free. In other news, my ZvP guide is finished up being written. I am collecting images during the next week and I hope it will be up by the end of it. It took up all of my free time this week T_T . | ||
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Vond
Sweden145 Posts
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Lolrior
United States26 Posts
On September 12 2011 14:10 Chaosvuistje wrote: Guys, I have just found a real use for /dance other than a cheap humiliation. Thors that are neural parasited can be /danced, but that is not all. If they are /danced right at the end of the neural parasite, they will dance until the animation is finished regardless of whether or not the Thor is in terrans hands again. Which means the Thor is out of action for a good 4 more seconds for free. That's a really awesome finding! I'll have to do that as much as I can before Patch 1.4 comes out, making it impossible to NP Thors. T.T Screw balance, let's have a /dance party before it's too late. | ||
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Chaosvuistje
Netherlands2581 Posts
http://www.mediafire.com/?ekr118y6h22rv7a It features replays with titles about the game itself. Most of them include my Ultralisk-Speedbaneling lategame that I can suggest anyone to give a try. Got 99 problems but a ghost aint one with this kind of lategame army. Enjoy! | ||
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ETisME
12888 Posts
Sometimes even if I see them chrono-ing the upgrades and once I am prepared for his push, he just retreat and expand after that, making me way behind in economy | ||
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AdrianHealey
Belgium480 Posts
If not, no biggy. But that would really help me out. | ||
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Chaosvuistje
Netherlands2581 Posts
On October 31 2011 00:39 ETisME wrote: any news on the zvp? recently having a lot of trouble dealing with protoss, especially the FFE style, I don't know whether he will commit to an all-in (7 gate or stargate 5 gate etc) or just get a third. Sometimes even if I see them chrono-ing the upgrades and once I am prepared for his push, he just retreat and expand after that, making me way behind in economy I do have a ZvP guide on my site, check it out! It's in the blog section and you just scroll down from there. Although I have recenty been having a lot of trouble versus protoss as well, so take that guide with a grain of salt. I've recently started getting hatch first with speed for zerglings later, then decide on +1 range if the protoss goes gateway expand and +1 carapace if he opens forge and starts upgrading. I get a quick third and macro hatch and most importantly another queen. So I can produce roaches first to hold of any major assault and then just go into wtftoomany ling production, and since you can rack up quite a bit of larvae with 4 queens and 4 hatches... After that I get up a spire and you collect gas while you make zerglings. This is great because it allows me to be aggressive on his third while also allowing me to crush any midgame timing attack hard. If he just turtles I basically instantly saturate my third because of the overload of larvae. And mutalisk + major frontal attacks can cripple a protoss quite effectively. On October 31 2011 00:45 AdrianHealey wrote: Could you make it a pdf file that is easy printable? If not, no biggy. But that would really help me out. A fine gentlemen on reddit posted such a PDF file in the reddit thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/k4fql/zerg_versus_terran_guide_from_the_guy_that/ Just scroll down or search for pdf, you should see the link almost instantaniously. | ||
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