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Qiw
Sweden57 Posts
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besneeze
Canada2 Posts
On January 23 2012 03:39 Czarnodziej wrote: You meant that u rest Your fingers on QWEF, pinky, index, middle, point ? Thats terribly awkward. Am I misunderstanding this? I got fingers on AWF, pinky near shift and ctrl and thumb on space obviously. That feels natural. From playing non-RTS games I have developed the position similar to yours where my left hand rests on SHIFT, A, W, D and SPACE. The ideal position for this layout is Q, W,E, F, SPACE if I'm not mistaken. This requires you're left hand to be at angle to the keyboard. I find this akward. So instead, I decided to keep using both DarkGrid and my hand positioning. I made one small change that I found suited my hand positioning quite a bit: I swapped Patrol and Attack (so that Attack is on A and patrol on Q). This just feels more natural to me. | ||
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_NIx_
United States49 Posts
So, have any Protoss players switched cold-turkey to this layout, and if so, was it worth it? I want to be more efficient in my play, but I'm not convinced this is worth it. | ||
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FoxyMayhem
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Czarnodziej
Poland624 Posts
On January 23 2012 04:23 besneeze wrote: The ideal position for this layout is Q, W,E, F, SPACE if I'm not mistaken. Isn't it little counterproductive? I tried it and pressing ctrl + any other key led me to twisting my whole hand to the side. | ||
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FoxyMayhem
624 Posts
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_NIx_
United States49 Posts
Another thing, how do I set my nexus hotkey? I tried ctrl-mouse buttons but it didn't work Edit again: Is my warpin key supposed to be Y? | ||
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FoxyMayhem
624 Posts
Your mouse buttons need to be set to produce O and P when pressed, or you need to manually rebind the hotkey layout to your mouse. Warpin is not really used, unfortunately. I couldn't really find a way to work it in effectively, everything is already so shoved together. Perhaps if there's a 1.4. | ||
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besneeze
Canada2 Posts
On January 23 2012 09:00 Czarnodziej wrote: Isn't it little counterproductive? I tried it and pressing ctrl + any other key led me to twisting my whole hand to the side. I believe you are supposed to press the CTRL key without using any fingers. Use the corner of your palm (not your pinky) to hit CTRL. | ||
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lac29
United States1485 Posts
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Fencar
United States2694 Posts
It works fine with Ctrl+alt+Q/W/A, but not Ctrl+alt+S/D/F. I have tried re-binding, making them alternate or not alternate, but to no avail. Is there a fix for this? I prefer using Ctrl+alt+[letter] instead of Ctrl+shift+[letter] or Shift+alt+[letter]. | ||
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FoxyMayhem
624 Posts
No pros have told me they used this layout, but it was only recently introduce to the SCII scene, and switching is hardest for pros. Besneeze, I don't do that, but that's also effective. | ||
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On January 23 2012 09:00 Czarnodziej wrote: Isn't it little counterproductive? I tried it and pressing ctrl + any other key led me to twisting my whole hand to the side. Well, it's actually not that uncommon in RTS to play with the hand tilted. A way of making it easier is to tip the actual keyboard so you don't have to tilt your hand all that much. Also, with darkgrid, you shouldn't use ctrl all that much, it has binds to create controlgroups with alt, so alt+g creates a control group on g, same as ctrl+g. Using alt with this setup is way easier, but harder to get used to. As for the question on pros, I mentioned darkgrid on Snutes channel and he said he finds it interesting. He's not using it though ^^ | ||
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Czarnodziej
Poland624 Posts
On January 23 2012 17:20 Tobberoth wrote: Well, it's actually not that uncommon in RTS to play with the hand tilted. A way of making it easier is to tip the actual keyboard so you don't have to tilt your hand all that much. Also, with darkgrid, you shouldn't use ctrl all that much, it has binds to create controlgroups with alt, so alt+g creates a control group on g, same as ctrl+g. Using alt with this setup is way easier, but harder to get used to. As for the question on pros, I mentioned darkgrid on Snutes channel and he said he finds it interesting. He's not using it though ^^ Alt + space is not a good idea mechanically. | ||
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On January 23 2012 18:38 Czarnodziej wrote: Alt + space is not a good idea mechanically. True, toss setup isn't really optimal in this case. Then again, creating a control group is something you do very seldomly, most of the time you'll be using shift anyway. | ||
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9-BiT
United States1089 Posts
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Dright
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I got mad at zero for being so far away, so I put my control groups on qwert-asdfg to make controlling my army more like touch typing, with unit controls being zxcvb, and spells/units/new buildings being 123456y(plus hnjm for terran). I prefer it because my hand's base is on asdf, just like it is in typing. I do the same thing for fps and rpgs, moving wasd to esdf so it's more natural. It usually takes me (there was an intermediate and terrible set of hotkeys I used for a while) about a week to get used to them enough to play, and it's taken maybe three months to no longer need to glance at the keyboard to find keys. I've never looked back. If you haven't already made your own setup, learn to use this one, and if you have any qualms with it, change it to your desires! You'll be a better player for it. EDIT: I moved tab over to alt so that I could use it for warpgate, but now on inspiration from this setup I think I'll move what is now on alt over to tilde so I can use alt as a the modifier key it's meant to be and put base cams on the same keys as my control groups =D | ||
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Fencar
United States2694 Posts
On January 23 2012 17:05 FoxyMayhem wrote: Sounds like a hardware issue, Fencer. What keyboard do you have? No pros have told me they used this layout, but it was only recently introduce to the SCII scene, and switching is hardest for pros. Besneeze, I don't do that, but that's also effective. I use Logitech's G110 Keyboard. | ||
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Grimmid
Romania4 Posts
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Sennin
Belgium50 Posts
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