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gillon
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Sweden1578 Posts
February 02 2012 12:12 GMT
#101
On August 24 2011 18:59 StimmedProbe wrote:
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On August 24 2011 18:51 DaemonX wrote:
On August 24 2011 16:19 StimmedProbe wrote:
On August 24 2011 09:12 MMXMoto-X17 wrote:
This is one of the best Tvp guides I ever read. Very well written to, Nice! I'm only gold but after practicing this build a few times I'm starting to beat platinum and even low diamond protoss. I'm finding this strategy even works vs zerg, or at least the gold/platinum zergs I play vs.

But I have a question, what do I do vs warp prism harass? This protoss dropped 4 zealots in my main as soon as I moved out, and I was forced to retreat and defend. He then did this happened again, etc. I ended up losing the game because he got 2 colosuses out by the time I got to his base.

thanks


If he drops 4 zealots in your main you just take your army + all your base scvs and go kill him. Lift your CC towards your army, and pump out one last round of units from your rax/fact/starport, then lift those too towards your army. If they invest 600 in 4zealots/warp prism they will have much less stuff at home to deal with your push.

With all respect, this is not valid in masters Stimmed. 4-zeal warp prism - or more likely, hidden-pylon-and-he-just-runs-them-over-to-your-ramp-zeals don't invest enough that a good player that isn't losing too much stuff will let you break in suddenly. He can force a base-swap with very little investment indeed sometimes, leaving you in a very uncomfortable position.

The best example I can think of is a protoss that forced a lift-off with zealot warp ins into my main (he had a probe and observer out on the map when I established contain, did a low-ground pylon warp-in), and had a single voidray that took out my Orbital and barracks on-route! I was forced to try and crack him and ended up pushing into 3 colossi which picked off all my marines. I wasn't dead but neither was I mining - nasty game. I'll try and dig up the replay.



Just for reference, I'm in grandmasters =] Anyways at the highest level of play if you waste 600 minerals on an attack that doesn't do much, you will lose. In addition that warp prism eats up robo build time. The first hellion should poke around for these pylons anyways.

I have never had problems with 4 zealot drops with this build. Yes it is extremely annoying to get 4 zealot dropped, but you just simply send all your scvs now instead of just 12-16 of them. It's sorta how in TvZ, if 20+ mutas keep poking your base, you just say 'ok i've had it, and take your whole army and march across the map and force him to come back to defend your push'.

edit: Terran's almost always win base trades btw =]


Well, low econ TvP is the ONE situation I'd even consider basetrading.
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wilsonusopen
Profile Joined February 2011
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February 08 2012 06:29 GMT
#102
why can't i click on any of the spoilers
DaemonX
Profile Joined September 2010
545 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-08 08:09:14
February 08 2012 08:08 GMT
#103
Fix your browser! They are working fine for me.
lex88
Profile Joined July 2012
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July 02 2012 18:06 GMT
#104
Hi players,

Well, I have to say this build is terrific.

I use it against Protoss, and most of the time, I win.

About zerg, I only focus more on banshee, and forget raven, it works well, very well.

Real good build, well done stimmed probe.

Lex
Nobody ever defended anything successfully, there is only attack and attack and attack some more. Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/g/george_s_patton_2.html#fbYMAdPds2UQSrLP.99
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