The Terran Help Me Thread - Page 81

On December 01 2011 16:20 RoboBob wrote:
All those builds *can* work. But the thing is, it's just so much easier to build Siege Tanks. So all that stuff is sub-optimal.

On December 01 2011 14:19 ithinknot wrote:
are there any viable strategies or builds against zerg that do not use siege tanks? i was thinking that by having the thors to soak up a lot of the bane damage that it would really allow the marines to do the work, i also wanted to use the gas for either ravens or banishes for harassment or is the siege tank just too cost effective against zerg? any help is most appreciated, thank you!

On December 02 2011 10:48 Wingmancd wrote:
Hey guys, two quick questions.

What's the best way to handle someone attacking the worker that builds my (12) supply Rax? And if I fail to respond quick enough, is there a way to get the worker to stop building without canceling the whole building?

Also, if I have multiple Command Centers bound to the same hotkey, is there a way to control which one my camera pans to when I double tap the key?

Thanks in advance.

On December 02 2011 07:59 BirdKiller wrote:
Going against a Zerg that:

- Does not Fast Expand to Natural
- Builds Spawning Pool and Extractor

To mean means that there's either going to be a Baneling Bust or a fast Roach coming in. The question is, what do I need to look out for to determine which strategy the Zerg player will pick?

Once in a blue moon I might get a SCV go directly into the Zerg's base at later time and find its tech structures, but if that fails, the only hint that I see are the number of Zerglings the Zerg has. If there's a lot of Zerglings, I should prepare a Baneling Bust, if not, then I should be cautious of a fast Roach.

Is there anything else that I should be looking?

On December 02 2011 20:03 Expez wrote:
Can someone explain how they manage their control groups in late game vs toss? I spend a lot of time on this in my game, when I'd rather be spending my time on army movements or doing drops.

I have the following hotkey setup: 1 MMM, W ghosts, 3 vikings.

What I do now just seems so sub-optimal:
1) Bind all the things according to above layout.
2) CTRL + click to select <unit type> at rally point, shift-click <ctrl-group> to add newly created units to the existing control group.

This means that for every production cycle I need to update 3 control groups.

Ideally I should have medivacs on their own hotkey, and have them following some unit, right? This would make the task of managing these control groups even harder. I realize this game isn't supposed to be easy, but I just want to know if I'm doing this right?

On December 02 2011 20:55 MiraculiX wrote:
Thats how i do it. And to me it's the best way to do it. Pluss, you dont have to do it EVERY production cycle, at least not if you're not expecting a fight.
There is no need for medivacs to be on a hotkey. You just put you Bioarmy on 1 (or whatever) and then select all the medivacs and attack move them to your bio. That way they can heal your army while on the move, IE when you're kiting av retreating.
If you keep your medivacs on the same hotkey as your army, they will not do this, and only heal when you stop.

On December 03 2011 01:48 Expez wrote:


Thanks! Followup questions:

Excluding the medivacs from a control group is somewhat hard. Do you CTRL-click medivacs, move them away, box bio and make control group? Or do you box everything (MMM) TAB twice (to get to the page holding the medivacs; first tab goes to marauder, second tab goes to medivacs) then shift-click medivacs away and bind the bio?

When you said A-move medivac to your army, what does that mean? Do you A-move to a place near your army, or do you 'attack' one of your units with the medivac? Is the latter like asking the medivac to follow some unit around? If it's the former won't you have to constantly reposition them by making new A-move commands so the A-move command vector lines up with the movement vector of your stutter-stepping army?

On December 02 2011 11:09 Andreas wrote:

My philosophy is, either the Zerg is all-inning or his expansion is going to be delayed. Going gas/pool for fast ling speed and then expanding once the first 4 zerglings pop isn't that popular in the high leagues anymore, but you'll still see it every now and then. Assuming you're going for some kind of fast expand build (reactor hellion expand, maybe?), the fact that he delayed his expo to get a pool/gas means you can afford to scan him without putting yourself needlessly behind.

When you scout him with your first SCV, see how much gas he's got left in his geyser. If he has less than 2400 and still has 3 guys on gas, you know something's up. If he's taken guys off gas but isn't researching zergling speed, he's waiting for the SCV to die before spending his gas on whatever he wants to do. Count to 10 before scanning his base and see what he's doing.

Also - whether he's baneling or roach busting, my response tends to be rushing for tanks and/or banshees, so keep in mind you might not actually need to know which he's doing.

On December 03 2011 03:27 coko wrote:


I usually go for tanks every time if I think they are doing something strange, and am happy placing down a bunker or two (with gaps inbetween them!) to defend against any all in cheese. Once siege mode is complete, I'll tech to starport, and take my expansion with my 2/3 tanks ready to defend.

On December 03 2011 04:32 corvaleur wrote:
50 APM Protoss one base immortal all-in, what to do against a-click?

http://drop.sc/67410

On December 03 2011 04:34 Blazinghand wrote:


I'll take a look at this when I can get to an sc2 capable computer. Could you provide more than 1 line of detail describing what happened in the game? A little analysis on your part goes a long way to helping others analyze your replay and offer advice-- we're only able to put in effort if you're willing to do so.

On December 03 2011 04:50 corvaleur wrote:


Thanks, I'm just frustrated since had 10 games today of which 5 were master PvT, 1 base/cheese/all-in.

My strat was an 1 Rax Marauder expand which doesn't really matter since 1 Rax FE, 2 Rax, 3 Rax are all the same to a one base Protoss, that is happy a-click wins.

Build 4 bunkers, stim first since I thought mayhaps he won't be a typical protoss and expand so I could pressure him. FFed my bunkers so no repair from there on GG.