The Protoss Help Me Thread - Page 411

On January 24 2013 20:30 Teoita wrote:
Nop, the benefit of the extra chrono/probe production isn't worth it.

Also, nexi don't fly, cc's do.

On January 24 2013 19:13 Chandra wrote:
Ugh, 1 base terran is the absolute death of me. In this particular game I poked with a probe and saw 4 marines with a gas build, so I assumed it was either going to be a 2 rax or hellion drop, per usual. 2 rax didn't hit at the standard time, so I assume hellion drop and fortify my main. Turns out it's actually 3 rax stim, and all of my units die because I had 4 stalkers in my main mineral line when he hits my front. And this was daybreak, so he just dodged the watch tower, so I had no idea it was coming. I have no idea how I'm supposed to differentiate between those kinds of builds before I have an observer out and position my units accordingly. Should I have just had a probe positioned in my blind spot to see it coming? I'm not sure what I should have done. Here's the replay: http://drop.sc/298182

On January 25 2013 00:33 HereAndNow wrote:
So I've recently started playing SC2 more again (after a brief stint with League, Dota2, and BlOps), and decided to give Protoss a whirl, a change from my normal Terran. I find that I don't like using the Sentry as much, preferring actual combat units and not liking that much reliance on casting early game. Is it possible to do well as a ~Gold level Protoss player relying on Zealot and Stalkers early game? Or is it just not feasible to hold things off without Force Field?

On January 25 2013 05:05 ZeromuS wrote:
Quick Question:

2 thor rush with scvs. WTF why do I lose everytime this rare thing shows up -_-

On January 25 2013 05:11 Geiko wrote:


Show us a replay !

But you're supposed to make immortals I think ?

On January 25 2013 05:13 ZeromuS wrote:


The replay consisted of chrono probes (greedy) and one immortal lol

General response: I have none this is what I wanted to get an idea of lol so rare and with hots I might not bother worrying about it was just frustrating at the time.

On January 25 2013 07:51 Tzela wrote:
is there a certain way i can place my first pylons to help prevent cannons behind the mineral line? especially on maps where he only needs 2 pylons to wall himself in back there like daybreak.
i see most pros drop their second pylon back there im just not sure of the logic of this. seems like im aiding him to wall it off.

On January 25 2013 02:45 Ingusstarcraft wrote:
I guess this has been posted somewhere before, but i can't find it on TL; can someone please give me an efficient bo for a 1Gate FE into 6/7 gate sentry all in for PvT? Thank you

On January 25 2013 07:51 Tzela wrote:
is there a certain way i can place my first pylons to help prevent cannons behind the mineral line? especially on maps where he only needs 2 pylons to wall himself in back there like daybreak.
i see most pros drop their second pylon back there im just not sure of the logic of this. seems like im aiding him to wall it off.

On January 25 2013 03:14 Mavvie wrote:
If I'm doing a 1g FE and am facing a 2 rax reactor first, how do I defend? I thought I did everything okay (especially considering my toss account is only at plat MMR)

Replay

I went up to 3 gates first before robo (I guess they were a bit late, second gas was a bit early, and a few other minor details), but got absolutely demolished by the mostly marine force with a few conc shell marauders to deny kiting...I'm just not familiar with what I'm meant to do against this. Do I forcefield it in half on the ramp and use zlot/sentry? Do I go pure stalker, focus down the marauders, and then kite the marines? Do I use guardian shield with any combination of the above?

Thanks ^^

On January 25 2013 09:53 Geiko wrote:


Make the pylon where he would normally put his. The difference is that you can clip through your own pylon while you couldn't if it was his pylon.

On January 25 2013 10:32 Gumbi wrote:

Do you mean slip? If so, how come you can slip through your own, how does that work?

On January 25 2013 10:45 Geiko wrote:


I think it's called "clipping". Basically it's the same thing you would do if you walled your ramp but want to let a probe out. You place your probe in a corner between the ramp and your buildings and build a pylon. Your probe then walks through your buiding and down the ramp. Here it's the same thing, you can clip between your minerals and your pylon.
Takes some experimenting to get the hang of it but then you know how to do it, it's quite easy.