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On June 23 2011 04:43 IzieBoy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2011 11:48 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
Dignitas Merz just did a 3 reaper rush against the cookiemonster in the eg mastercup. He didn't do it like how you plan and instead pushed up the ramp with an scv, the 3 reapers and 1 marine.
Cloud - wtf was that
merz - pro stuff
Pro indeed, Pride :D replay plz? or a screen shot? how does one push the ramp with reapers lol...sounds epic i wonder if there's a way i can emulate this with rines...maybe float a barracks in and pump a critical amount of marines and have fast stim at home to snipe some worker/mule vs T - early worker snipes are so strong oh and how many marines do i need to deal with 3 reapers effectively?
It was during the eg mastercup yesterday between dignitas and mym. I just checked and the vods aren't up. The attack didn't do too much damage from what I remember but I watched a lot of games last night. But just check onemoregame.tv for 6/21
Also just saw you Pride playing against Warden and added in the scvs to tank damage. He knew that you were doing it though and 2raxed and held it off really well. I'm curious how the build works against itself, is the person with better micro/positioning miles ahead or has it not been tested yet?
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On June 23 2011 07:13 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2011 04:43 IzieBoy wrote:On June 22 2011 11:48 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
Dignitas Merz just did a 3 reaper rush against the cookiemonster in the eg mastercup. He didn't do it like how you plan and instead pushed up the ramp with an scv, the 3 reapers and 1 marine.
Cloud - wtf was that
merz - pro stuff
Pro indeed, Pride :D replay plz? or a screen shot? how does one push the ramp with reapers lol...sounds epic i wonder if there's a way i can emulate this with rines...maybe float a barracks in and pump a critical amount of marines and have fast stim at home to snipe some worker/mule vs T - early worker snipes are so strong oh and how many marines do i need to deal with 3 reapers effectively? It was during the eg mastercup yesterday between dignitas and mym. I just checked and the vods aren't up. The attack didn't do too much damage from what I remember but I watched a lot of games last night. But just check onemoregame.tv for 6/21 Also just saw you Pride playing against Warden and added in the scvs to tank damage. He knew that you were doing it though and 2raxed and held it off really well. I'm curious how the build works against itself, is the person with better micro/positioning miles ahead or has it not been tested yet?
i should have at least scouted. i thought he might gas but didnt lol. postioning is key
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sick build, pride. I like it.
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This build isn't cheesy, unless you consider every T v T build to be cheesy. There is econ-cheese and there is aggression cheese. 2 sides of the same thing.
SC2's biggest flaw is how much coin-flip build order wins dominate this game.
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On June 23 2011 05:35 PrideTV wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2011 05:31 Lzuruha.FantaSy wrote:
lol.. koreans have been opening reaper builds for a while now somone even did it recently in the team league ;d cant really say its ur build i posted before he even did it and plus his variation is diffferent sir, please don't spam my thread with useless information.
? lol koreans have been doing it before you in every m/u trying out 2 rax reaper stop trying to steal credit thats like me saying i made the 4 gate .. lmao
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On June 23 2011 14:26 Lzuruha.FantaSy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2011 05:35 PrideTV wrote:On June 23 2011 05:31 Lzuruha.FantaSy wrote:
lol.. koreans have been opening reaper builds for a while now somone even did it recently in the team league ;d cant really say its ur build i posted before he even did it and plus his variation is diffferent sir, please don't spam my thread with useless information. ? lol koreans have been doing it before you in every m/u trying out 2 rax reaper stop trying to steal credit thats like me saying i made the 4 gate .. lmao
yea you're right. They invented everything. I should reedit this to.. Slayersboxer 3 reaper rush, ya?
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Yeah, Boxer makes EVERY terran build! He's that awesome, where else would the builds come from :D
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On June 22 2011 05:18 windsupernova wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2011 05:05 OhMyGawd wrote:
Oh Pride...You never cease to impress me with your cheese.
Blizzard Bless the Terran race How is this cheese? I think a similar build was done in a TvT in a GSL match, I don´t exactly remember which one but it was on dualsight it did surprisingly ton of damage
It was Nada vs IMMVP if im not mistaking
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Destiny says your nice but bad at this game. lulz. Manner bear ♥
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I don't think pride is bad, he just plays the game differently than most people want him to... and they don't like it.
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Ehm, how is this build new?
I had to check the date of this thread to make sure it didn't say 2010 :D
3 reapers 1 shot marins and scv, ORLY??
I play mostly 2v2 but some 1v1, high dim, and i have been using this for a year or more. Im sure all Terran players above platinum knows about this build, so whats the big fuzz about?
The reason this is not a very good build is that ONE rauder shuts u down and you are behind. If reapers could get speed fast it would work better, but they cant. Reaper needs a re-buff.
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On June 23 2011 21:22 sille wrote:
Ehm, how is this build new?
I had to check the date of this thread to make sure it didn't say 2010 :D
3 reapers 1 shot marins and scv, ORLY??
I play mostly 2v2 but some 1v1, high dim, and i have been using this for a year or more. Im sure all Terran players above platinum knows about this build, so whats the big fuzz about?
The reason this is not a very good build is that ONE rauder shuts u down and you are behind. If reapers could get speed fast it would work better, but they cant. Reaper needs a re-buff.
No, we do not know about this build. If it works for a grandmaster then it's strange you're stuck in low leagues using the same build.
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On June 23 2011 21:22 sille wrote:
Ehm, how is this build new?
I had to check the date of this thread to make sure it didn't say 2010 :D
3 reapers 1 shot marins and scv, ORLY??
I play mostly 2v2 but some 1v1, high dim, and i have been using this for a year or more. Im sure all Terran players above platinum knows about this build, so whats the big fuzz about?
The reason this is not a very good build is that ONE rauder shuts u down and you are behind. If reapers could get speed fast it would work better, but they cant. Reaper needs a re-buff.
Joke post?
And marauder openings are very rare in TvT.
The build seems really easy to scout and stop. It doesn't look like a reaper expand since you get a second rax so early, and since you don't get a marine the scouting SCV will be able to stay in your base forever.
Perhaps it would still work if they scout the two barracks since they might expect an early marauder push and bunker up... but if they just keep the SCV in the base until the first reaper pops you're out of luck.
Whether or not it's considered 'cheese' is irrelevant, but I'd say it's pretty close. It's easy to scout, and with proper response it can be dealt with easily as well, and then you're really far behind (150 gas is a lot).
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On June 23 2011 22:27 Genome852 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2011 21:22 sille wrote:
Ehm, how is this build new?
I had to check the date of this thread to make sure it didn't say 2010 :D
3 reapers 1 shot marins and scv, ORLY??
I play mostly 2v2 but some 1v1, high dim, and i have been using this for a year or more. Im sure all Terran players above platinum knows about this build, so whats the big fuzz about?
The reason this is not a very good build is that ONE rauder shuts u down and you are behind. If reapers could get speed fast it would work better, but they cant. Reaper needs a re-buff.
Joke post? And marauder opening are very rare in TvT.
They will be a standard response once the t scouts that you have 2 barracks with tlabs lol. And the only need 1 marauder to hold it off and the techlab can be used for a factory or a starport after building teh marauder.
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On June 23 2011 22:45 seefour wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2011 22:27 Genome852 wrote:On June 23 2011 21:22 sille wrote:
Ehm, how is this build new?
I had to check the date of this thread to make sure it didn't say 2010 :D
3 reapers 1 shot marins and scv, ORLY??
I play mostly 2v2 but some 1v1, high dim, and i have been using this for a year or more. Im sure all Terran players above platinum knows about this build, so whats the big fuzz about?
The reason this is not a very good build is that ONE rauder shuts u down and you are behind. If reapers could get speed fast it would work better, but they cant. Reaper needs a re-buff.
Joke post? And marauder opening are very rare in TvT. They will be a standard response once the t scouts that you have 2 barracks with tlabs lol. And the only need 1 marauder to hold it off and the techlab can be used for a factory or a starport after building teh marauder.
The reapers would still do a lot of damage if you don't get conc. shells. Better to just get 2 rax of your own (and marauders probably). If you hold it off you're so far ahead anyways.
Edit: this seems surprisingly effective against zerg...if Z hatch first, the reapers will be in his base slightly before speed finishes it seems (need more tests), and queens don't kill reapers fast enough to prevent damage. It forces a lot of lings or a spine at each mineral line, and if you can prevent getting surrounded, you can do heavy drone damage. Your FE timing is very close to 2rax FE timing since reaper construction is low minerals per minute.
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I love seeing new builds like this. I will definitely be trying this out on the ladder. It seems everyone now goes 1-1-1 or 1 rax FE, so until this catches on there's significant damage to be done.
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Nice build, early game on ladder is gonna be full or reapers now 
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You guys are acting like the reapers have to commit and die. If the opponent gets a marauder then you just pull the reapers back and use them for map control. As long as they are alive they can threaten your opponent and if he moves out you will see it ahead of time. If you keep the reapers alive he has to commit defenses at his main and natural which makes any push towards you automatically weaker. If he doesn't commit the defenses then you get free scv/building kills while he moves across the map.
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NADA vs IMMVP
Nada goes 2 rax reapers
Absolutely decimated his opponent.
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Great guide (: good to see TvT developing away from the typical marine/tank stalemate
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