EPTOn July 06 2011 07:53 CombatFan wrote:
able to warp stuff into your opponents base, which doesn't seem like a big deal imo
able to warp stuff into your opponents base, which doesn't seem like a big deal imo
lol
[G] Warp Prism 4Gate PvT - Page 5
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Keilah
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djchillfit
4 Posts
Just wanted to say thanks for the build, this is really fun to play and really effective at my level. Been using it in PvT and PvP and so far so good. | ||
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
On July 06 2011 07:53 CombatFan wrote: This build will almost definitly not work as you can do almost the exact same thing with a warp prism as you can do with a pylon, except with a pylon you don't need a robo (200mins/100gas), and a warpprism (200mins) so you save yourself 400mins and 100gas, only to give up not being able to warp stuff into your opponents base, which doesn't seem like a big deal imo 5/5 xD | ||
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McKracken
4 Posts
http://www.sc2builds.com/build/1874 As a newer player, Yabot helps me get a feel for how to execute build orders - also, because I'm a newer player, the transcription may need some tweeking. The time values are taken from the Alejandrisha vs AI replay. Please do let me know if there is anything glaringly wrong with the timings. Thanks Alejandrisha for the BO! I'll be practicing this one for sure.  | ||
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jarrydesque
584 Posts
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mordek
United States12704 Posts
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jarrydesque
584 Posts
On July 07 2011 04:09 mordek wrote: Now that people brought up the cannons it reminds me of the Kiwikaki vs. Machine game on Meta close air where he got a fast +1 weapons, 4 gates and warp prism. Had 7 +1 zealots in the base with cannons on the way to run back to. Popularized as his "+1 Flying Korean Warpgate Cannonrush". | ||
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Corsica
Ukraine1854 Posts
Gonna try it out :D How you guys think it will work on xelnaga or taldarim(not cross)? | ||
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
On July 07 2011 09:02 Corsica wrote: Relly sweet BO! I've seen white-ra do this vs Tarson recently (HD's channel) Gonna try it out :D How you guys think it will work on xelnaga or taldarim(not cross)? You'd have to make some variations if you wanted it to work on those maps. If you REALLY want to try it, use your scouting pylon to make your 2nd pylon at the side expansion on xel'naga and either the 3rd or the pocket expansion on teldarim (i recommend the pocket expansion, obviously :} ). You'll be proxying your robo and 1 or 2 gateways at this pylon, because you you won't have a 2nd pylon in your base to "hide" your additional gateways. I was, personally, never satisfied with doing this. It might be more efficient to use a 3rd pylon much earlier than in the original build, but it makes the rush come significantly later. If you try it and it works well, feel free to post a replay and I'll have a looksie! | ||
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kron0s
Philippines57 Posts
like someone posted earlier, vs terran, a 3gate + forge variation actually works amazingly well. just: -cut probes at the same time, -after robo, instead of 3xgates then 2xpylon, go 2xgate, pylon, forge pylon. -warp in 3zealots instead of 4 (duh), and load up a probe to go with them -drop in their mineral line, warp 3 units at a time while building cannons at the back of the mineral line -reinforce the cannons with a pylon as soon as you can afford it have fun, and enjoy the rage ^_^ | ||
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Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
Alejandrisha you should make a PvP and a PvZ also, then my ladder builds are complete. Nonetheless, great work. Going to practice this before season 3 starts. | ||
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Whiplash
United States2928 Posts
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IzieBoy
United States865 Posts
if the warp prism comes out with a 4-gate warp pressure behind it... that's deadly but if you can't handle say initial bunker harrass into medivac harrass, or 5 speed reaper harrass (I like to go with 5 to snipe pylons and stalkers) into cloak banshee. It's cool to go aggro, but the failings lie in its ability to deal with other aggro builds, especially aggro builds with a macro plan. | ||
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MassHysteria
United States3678 Posts
On July 10 2011 02:39 Whiplash wrote: Great build, I'll be testing this build out on my stream today. Nice! I am trying to find your stream though but can't  | ||
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
On July 10 2011 03:16 IzieBoy wrote: not so sure about your build if the warp prism comes out with a 4-gate warp pressure behind it... that's deadly but if you can't handle say initial bunker harrass into medivac harrass, or 5 speed reaper harrass (I like to go with 5 to snipe pylons and stalkers) into cloak banshee. It's cool to go aggro, but the failings lie in its ability to deal with other aggro builds, especially aggro builds with a macro plan. Your failings lie with your insistance of theorycrafting in lieu of replays and evidence | ||
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
On July 10 2011 02:27 eYeball wrote: I wish all builds were this structured and informational. Alejandrisha you should make a PvP and a PvZ also, then my ladder builds are complete. Nonetheless, great work. Going to practice this before season 3 starts. Thank you! I haven't found anything very sexy in PvP and PvZ to really make a guide about but I am always looking for gosu strats/builds that are interesting and fun to execute. I will keep my eyes peeled! Few watch as much starcraft as I do :} | ||
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IzieBoy
United States865 Posts
On July 10 2011 03:19 Alejandrisha wrote: Your failings lie with your insistance of theorycrafting in lieu of replays and evidence Okay i'll make a video of it, but the guy who does it isn't me... | ||
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TechnoSchaman
United States156 Posts
Just recently i did this when i scouted a factory in terrans base. my Drop hit, pulled units back from front and attacked at both ends when i noticed the banshee The obs gets there at almost that exact moment and you still have the gas to warp in 3 stalkers with the warp prism. I don't know if this has been added or suggested by anyone, but the build totally allows it and it doesnt affect any part of it other than giving you an obs And again, thanks for this build Alej, you are truly a genius | ||
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sk1nex
Finland299 Posts
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SethDrone
United States51 Posts
Been working great at my level, just diamond. As I move out with the prism I generally start 2nd gas and a twilight council. Depending on how the attack goes and how much damage you do can followup with zealot/archon expo or go DTs if you hurt them enough and ur prism is still alive. Not sure howh high this is still working but its damn fun while it does. | ||
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