I did this all night last night while playing 4v4s.
Normally I go Forge first into 18 Nexus into 6 gate +1, so this ties in well with that.

Basically if you can get the wall up you're golden, and there's little your victim can do about it. The hardest part is avoiding or shaking a tail. I'm pretty sure that almost every time a worker was tailing my Probe I couldn't set it up, although I probably should have sent a second Probe, which I never did. I tried using the Stop Trick but it never worked well enough. I see the value in sending a second Probe now, although I bet it wouldn't work against Terran because they might have completed walling by then.

Maps where I was successful:
Toxic Slums: 12 o'clock position
Lava Flow: 11 o'clock position
Sand Canyon: 2 o'clock and 8 o'clock positions
District 10: 12 o'clock position with an extra pylon that my enemy placed in behind helping (lol)

Lessons Learned:
>Executing this rush is damaging to your build timing if you focus too heavily on the rush. Rely on your enemies' focus being fixed there and macro yourself while the rush is going on.
>Two cannons are preferred to one wherever you go. If you can't fit two cannons then don't expect the rush to be as good.
>You will almost always become the prime target of your remaining enemies once you do this rush. Your allies should be aware that they might have to defend you no matter what. Luckily the rush isn't too damaging that you can't get a 4gate and +1 up by about 8-10 minutes.
>Even if the rush fails as a result of your target reacting properly and quick enough, the distraction and damage to his economy is usually enough to set him back (especially since most players in team games are BAD).
>The more Zerg on your enemies' team, the worse off you are. Finding the enemy base that isn't Zerg is a huge waste of time and allows your enemies to get a Zealot or Marine out in time to stop or damage the rush.
> Having a Zerg ally to throw down a quick Spawning Pool and send a few support Zerglings is really helpful, especially if your rush is a little late.

P.S. I wish I had replays, but I'm at work...

Abigail

Italy56 Posts

June 01 2011 13:54 GMT

#228

I lol'd at the bw screenshot :D

Anyway,thanks for the 3d,i was uncertain if to start actually laddering something different rather then 1v1,and by accident you gave me a little fun factor to try it out.Those spots are used also in 1v1,but its kinda different then team :D

Valckrie

United Kingdom533 Posts

June 01 2011 14:40 GMT

#229

Epic strategy will bring an influx of protoss from all over bnet to teamgames to do this cannon rush! oh the joys of cannon rushing

IzieBoy

United States865 Posts

June 01 2011 14:57 GMT

#230

sick

glad i play random...won't be seeing any of this against me XD

can you build a pylon and the path through the pylon to a mineral patch to lose a tail?

twoCube

United States32 Posts

June 01 2011 16:33 GMT

#231

I'm gonna play protoss 4v4 just to have some fun with this :D

PowerDes

United States520 Posts

June 01 2011 18:55 GMT

#232

This is not all-in, can be defined as early pressure. You will continue making probes after the cannon rush is successful, and you are not at risk to any opposing pressure if you simply make a cannon at your base; therefore, this is comparable to something like an early 2 rax pressure.

Sporadic44

United States533 Posts

June 01 2011 19:06 GMT

#233

hot bid has his troll face on

manicshock

Canada741 Posts

June 01 2011 19:12 GMT

#234

On May 31 2011 19:11 FataLe wrote:
any counter?
sorry, counter for P?

I would learn from insane comps, rush for carriers. Carriers don't die to cannons very easily.

Hikari

1914 Posts

June 01 2011 19:21 GMT

#235

I surprisingly encountered 3 people trying this against me in the past 2 days. Damn hot bid is popular.

The first game the cannoneer trapped two of my probes in the pylon lock. Ofc his probe died.

The second game my opponent was able to successfully cannon my main mineral lines. I expoed at the natual and he tried to cannon that was well. However with a zealot out (and a 2nd one almost finished) his attempt to wall off failed. What really hurt me is the 30 lings that came by my wide open base shortly afterwards. Thankfully someone managed to kill off a lot of workers on the other side of the map with hellions and banshees.

The last game involved the probe mismicroing and I took it down to 1hp. He ran away and I proceeded by locking him out of the shared base with gateways, then transitioning into a 4 gate.

Mayor

United States472 Posts

June 01 2011 19:44 GMT

#236

So, I did this in all of my 3v3 placement matches.

Got diamond.

TheOneAboveU

Germany3367 Posts

June 01 2011 20:04 GMT

#237

oh thats why theres so much canon rushing going on :D
Well, I´ll try it then too, if i random toss :D

GinDo

3327 Posts

June 01 2011 20:13 GMT

#238

Their are a ton of people on custom trying this out. I just quit the game. Kind of stupid to cheese in custom.

Aranaukin

United States60 Posts

June 01 2011 20:15 GMT

#239

every single person i try to do this to follows me with their worker

Mithriel

Netherlands2969 Posts

June 01 2011 20:22 GMT

#240

On June 02 2011 05:15 Aranaukin wrote:
every single person i try to do this to follows me with their worker

Use the stop.tactic.to build.a.quick pylon between you and worker.

I just wonder if there is a noticeable increase on cannonrush on ladder after this haha. Hope to see one of these at.mlg too.