BOSS Cannon Rush - Page 13

On June 01 2011 11:58 Blasterion wrote:

No because Hot Bid posted it

On June 02 2011 06:02 littleblappa wrote:
I'm a rank 60 Diamond
I hope that you guys don't forget that a counter for this build is to scout for a REALLY early forge and if you scout that, kill the Probe as soon as possible with SCVs or Drones before it starts warping cannons. When that happens, rush them as soon as possible with marines because the protoss player will try to recover from that and you can't let them get away.

On June 02 2011 06:02 littleblappa wrote:
I'm a rank 60 Diamond + Show Spoiler + I hope that you guys don't forget that a counter for this build is to scout for a REALLY early forge and if you scout that, kill the Probe as soon as possible with SCVs or Drones before it starts warping cannons. When that happens, rush them as soon as possible with marines because the protoss player will try to recover from that and you can't let them get away.+ Show Spoiler +

On June 02 2011 22:37 primebeef wrote:
I don't see how this would work, because for zerg, the standard vs toss is pool b4 hatch unless its a long map, and you can't cannon their mineral line from behind like that because the creep from the hatch goes over.

For terran, the barrack comes up at the same time or a little bit before the forge does, and marine can kill the probe before he the pylons even finish, so you will have 2-3 wasted pylons.

For protoss, unless they are going 14 nexus they will get out a zealot before your pylon finishes building.

On June 02 2011 22:15 TheGiz wrote:


This is super naive thinking because the whole point of the build is that it doesn't matter if it is scouted or not. You build 3-4 pylons right in their face and make them deal with it. If it fails you just drop a Cannon in-base and fast expand while getting Gates up.

The best counter is seriously just good reaction time. I continued doing this last night and every time I failed it was because they send a goddam tail or flooded my area before I could get all the pylons up. I still can't get the stop trick right. I also have to be better with my second probe too.

Any time I didn't cannon rush last night, I or my teammates just got rolled by 6-8pool + 2rax + 2Gate anyways. That combination is basically impossible to stop, especially on maps like Toxic Slums where your base is isolated and your partners may be unwilling to send their 1 Zealot against 6-8 marines, zerglings, and 4 Zealots. You're basically better off cannon rushing, since there's little else you can do if they choose to be that cheap. The only rush I stopped last night was a Ling+2Rax+4gate on District 10 because I went straight for Colossus. Had they come earlier it wouldn't have mattered.

The worst part is that after successfully rushing yesterday many times my teammates still couldn't convert the win. After the rush you're basically playing a 3.5 vs 3 and if you have some crap (Bronze/Silver quality) teammates it really sucks.

So tl;dr: Go for the rush and if it fails pray that your teammates are good enough to survive until you can help them.

On June 02 2011 23:02 TheGiz wrote:


This is for TEAM GAMES if you didn't get that already. No Protoss in their right mind goes 14 Nexus in a team game, so clearly you weren't paying attention to the OP.

Also, the cannons can begin production before a Marine or Zealot is out, since every time I enter someone's base I clearly see a half-done Barracks or Gateway, and I'm just about at 300 minerals since I cut Probes.

The best counter I've seen after I got the cannons up was a Bunker being dropped in the mineral line while the Marine and Cannon were building. Few players are that smart though, and I still took out a fair amount of SCVs.