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Doctor Zoidberg
Spain82 Posts
My ally was Terran, and he was badly hurt from previous attacks, so my army ALONE (with this strat) dealt with both the Terran ennemies. They had a thor/battlecruiser army: their thors evaporated agains my ultras, and my queens forced the battlecruisers to go back to their base. Eventually, some corruptors + more ultras and queens won me the game, since it became a 1v2 Thank you for this awesome post, it really helped, i'll make sure to try it out a lot ^^ | ||
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DiranMan
25 Posts
On February 10 2011 21:54 Super_bricklayer wrote: So let me just quote that one : See ? I never said anything against that composition or about my personal experience with it, i always loved mass queen since the beta. All i said was about your tone and how pretentious you felt to me in the game you submited and more and more with your comments. But your reaction show to me why this thread is just bullshit forum wars instead of a "let's think/ talk about possible stuff". Anyway, we have a new mass queen topic every two weeks, let's just wait for the next one to be more constructive. Well try to make a constructive criticism rather than attacking the people behind the ideas. you will enjoy more and contribute to the site by making it a better thread. Obviously some people are finding it extremely useful so they can't be all wrong or total noobs can they? | ||
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lifecanwait
96 Posts
My strat also focuses more on the Infestor instead of Ultras.. [besides, the first time I saw a Queen for Transfusion was on some Youtube vid during beta and as far as I remember, it was TLO who had done it] | ||
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branflakes14
2082 Posts
On February 05 2011 21:06 icezar wrote: i did try this and a T ball of 3Thor and steamed MM just wiped me before i can transfuse any ultra. Did you have any upgrades? Remember that Ultralisks get a LOT of armour when fully upgraded, and Marines do fairly low damage. | ||
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Malminos
United States321 Posts
On February 10 2011 04:14 DiranMan wrote: I suppose Some master players will start using this composition late game since it has been used by pro gamers (after they read my post). while just 1 week ago they were insulting me and my league position disregarding my strat/army composition as fantasies... I guess some people are made to make inventions and others are competent in using them I suggest u try again with a banana... Ack, the quoting system is trolling us DiranMan. I didn't write that. Someone said "1. I didnt edit any of my posts. 2. Yes I am insulting your league cause I dont think that anyone other than the top tier of players should state opinions as facts. 3. spamming queens non stop in midgame weakens your army and economy to that point that you outright lose the game against good players (top masters). Nice try, but no banana..." and i was replying that the person that wrote the above quote should watch the last funday monday, cause mass queens can definitely work. Somehow the quote i replied to, merged with my reply. I actually think this strat u came up with is awesome! I dunno how i got quoted dissing it. Quoting system fail. | ||
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Rabbitmaster
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DiranMan
25 Posts
I have found that the ideal composition for 200/200 army when having 60 drones is: 7Ultras, 24lings, 16Banelings, 6 broodlords, 24queens, 3infestors. You should literally roll over almost any army composition with this. Only heavy feedback/emp with the correct balanced army can handle this. don’t forget that us zergs have the fast reinforce advantage as well. some will argue that 24 queens is overkill, i disagree, you have to remember that each queen can keep an ultra 1 more time alive, or 2 times a BL. the added advantage is that ultras actually stay and deal massive damage rather than make a death dance. also your queens will be your AA. Note that I find very little use of hydras in my build. as they are expensive and fragile, queens can do about 65% the DPS of hydras while can tank enormously better + transfuse/spread creep+no gas no larva. Roaches are you early to mid-game main army together with lings and infestors. late game they have no place as they are not supply efficient and mess up terribly with ultras, besides you have already too much to handle so no need the extra burden of controlling them separately. | ||
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ibreakurface
United States664 Posts
On February 10 2011 07:57 Parra wrote: Why you don't see Queens in army = they require creep which any above average player will make sure the Zerg opponents creep highway is kept at a minimum at all times. Yes and 20 queens with overlords wont be able to spread creep efficiently. | ||
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terran151
Canada103 Posts
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DiranMan
25 Posts
On February 12 2011 07:10 terran151 wrote: Aww wish i could see some pictures. :O Ya i have noticed from team games that ultralisks can be super powerful, with queens healing them that would be very scary. It would think it would be rare to be able to get this composition in 1v1 watch my replays | ||
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charlie420247
United States692 Posts
On February 12 2011 03:31 branflakes14 wrote: Did you have any upgrades? Remember that Ultralisks get a LOT of armour when fully upgraded, and Marines do fairly low damage. so true! marines against fully upgraded ultas do SHAT for damage. | ||
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TNine
United States46 Posts
Of course, Toss can counter by mass feedbacking any Infestors and then going blink stalker/immortal. But even then, one or two fungal growths can stop a lot of an army, allowing for queens to transfuse, and that many HTs are really going to eat into production. Idk, i'm not high enough level to really try this out, anyone else wanna give it a shot? | ||
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DiranMan
25 Posts
On February 13 2011 03:26 TNine wrote: How about Queen/bloord/roach/infestor combo? Beyond the fact that you are going to need multiple tech paths to deal with this (T3 HTs for the queens, which are useless against Roach, and either Immortals or Void Rays for the Roaches), but the power comes from how hard it is going to be to take down the Bloords. Queens are pretty strong against Void Rays, and you can absolutely spam Infested Terran to take them down. Meanwhile, good fungal growths can stop Stalkers from blink-sniping your Bloords. Of course, Toss can counter by mass feedbacking any Infestors and then going blink stalker/immortal. But even then, one or two fungal growths can stop a lot of an army, allowing for queens to transfuse, and that many HTs are really going to eat into production. Idk, i'm not high enough level to really try this out, anyone else wanna give it a shot? Untill you got your ultras out you need roaches to survive, you can heal some of them too in fight as the fights are not that large in particular. good luck healing them in a 200/200 fight... roaches are not supply effective late game so dont use them. the single most supply effective unit for zerg is the baneling! period. roaches are on the other hand of the spectrum. so no I dont like roaches late game. | ||
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