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Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
November 15 2016 19:47 GMT
#17521
Can you post a replay where drops do damage to you?
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Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-16 05:31:48
November 16 2016 05:29 GMT
#17522
On November 16 2016 04:47 Jer99 wrote:
Can you post a replay where drops do damage to you?

I'm afraid it will have to wait until tomorrow evening although I do have some recent examples of bio drops in particular killing me. Not letting me access replays because battle.net is down for maintenance so I can't check for definite which ones are relevant.
Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-16 15:59:27
November 16 2016 15:52 GMT
#17523
On November 16 2016 04:47 Jer99 wrote:
Can you post a replay where drops do damage to you?

http://drop.sc/replay/3963918

Not really a drop per sé, but I lost the game outright from an all-in push despite maintaining a 20 worker lead.

http://sc2replaystats.com/replay/3963919

Two drops and mass BC warps destroyed my economy. This was one played on the Test map. The only thing that I could have done to anticipate this was to drop Sensor Towers everywhere.
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
November 17 2016 22:56 GMT
#17524
What is Infestor's Neural Parasite used for in competitive play? Why isn't it seen more often?
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
cleanpapers
Profile Joined November 2016
7 Posts
November 25 2016 14:24 GMT
#17525
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snrub
Profile Blog Joined November 2016
Canada20 Posts
December 02 2016 03:17 GMT
#17526
Hopefully this is a simple enough question:

As a platinum Terran, I have a hard time incorporating drops into my play, mainly because I'm afraid to leave my base "less" guarded while the drop is en route. I guess I'm afraid that the opponent will just take all of his units and come charging into my base which now has less units.

What are the justifications to incorporating drops into play when you're essentially leaving yourself more vulnerable?
I like the way Snrub thinks!
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8231 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-02 08:04:27
December 02 2016 08:02 GMT
#17527
On December 02 2016 12:17 snrub wrote:
Hopefully this is a simple enough question:

As a platinum Terran, I have a hard time incorporating drops into my play, mainly because I'm afraid to leave my base "less" guarded while the drop is en route. I guess I'm afraid that the opponent will just take all of his units and come charging into my base which now has less units.

What are the justifications to incorporating drops into play when you're essentially leaving yourself more vulnerable?


Basically it's the old principle: "Offence is the best defence". You're pretty much defending yourself from attacks by attacking, as your opponent will be busy defending his base rather than attacking yours.

The tipping point comes when your opponent decides that it's worth more for him to ignore the drops and go all in rather than defending them. At which point you'll just need to have faith that your defenders advantage will be enough to get you through (Either with sieged units, buildings that soak up damage instead if your units, and/or the fact that your production facilities are much closer by). Plus the fact that if he's ignoring the drops completely, your units will wreck havoc on his production facilities, making it harder for him to reinforce. If your opponent is afraid of drops, it will also keep his army close to his home, which leaves you much bigger room to see them coming across the map and prepare accordingly.
Magpie842
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom28 Posts
December 02 2016 15:29 GMT
#17528
On November 18 2016 07:56 3FFA wrote:
What is Infestor's Neural Parasite used for in competitive play? Why isn't it seen more often?


It isn't really seen in competitive play atm. This is one of those abilities that needs a more clearly defined role imo.
Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
December 02 2016 18:18 GMT
#17529
On December 02 2016 12:17 snrub wrote:
Hopefully this is a simple enough question:

As a platinum Terran, I have a hard time incorporating drops into my play, mainly because I'm afraid to leave my base "less" guarded while the drop is en route. I guess I'm afraid that the opponent will just take all of his units and come charging into my base which now has less units.

What are the justifications to incorporating drops into play when you're essentially leaving yourself more vulnerable?


A lot of the concept behind Terran is attacker/defender asymetry... You have defensive stuff that can hold off a superior force, so you can detach a segment of your army to attack where they don't have an army and do as much damage as possible. When you do this, you force them to deal with it, which can take their army out of position. Or they can slam into your main force, which should be entrenched enough to handle them. Also, it's generally a good idea to shoot at things that aren't shooting back.
snrub
Profile Blog Joined November 2016
Canada20 Posts
December 04 2016 06:37 GMT
#17530
Thanks for the responses guys! I'm going to try harder to incorporate drops into my play.
I like the way Snrub thinks!
alex_business2010
Profile Joined July 2016
4 Posts
December 05 2016 15:58 GMT
#17531
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Nothingtosay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States875 Posts
December 06 2016 15:52 GMT
#17532
Why are carriers (seemingly) so much better in lotv than they were previously? I haven't played since hots but I watch a lot of streams now and apparently they are good.They 50 hp (since hots) and their release interceptor ability was removed last patch I believe
[QUOTE][B]On October 16 2011 13:00 Anihc wrote:[/B] No, you're the one who's wrong. Nothingtosay got it right.[/QUOTE]:3
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
December 06 2016 16:25 GMT
#17533
On December 07 2016 00:52 Nothingtosay wrote:
Why are carriers (seemingly) so much better in lotv than they were previously? I haven't played since hots but I watch a lot of streams now and apparently they are good.They 50 hp (since hots) and their release interceptor ability was removed last patch I believe


They were still useless until last patch except on one map.
Now the interceptors cost 5 minerals instead of 25 which is an insane buff.
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biollmax1984
Profile Joined December 2016
United States4 Posts
December 17 2016 13:12 GMT
#17534
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snickasaurus
Profile Joined December 2016
United Kingdom11 Posts
December 29 2016 12:52 GMT
#17535
Is there a way to automatically add units to a control group as they are produced? ie automatically without having to shift click them into the control group?

If the answer to this is "No" then presumably it's for good reason or bad practice does anyone know why?
krajew4
Profile Joined September 2016
1 Post
December 29 2016 16:49 GMT
#17536
Which race do you play?

To which control group would you like to assign newly created units?

snickasaurus
Profile Joined December 2016
United Kingdom11 Posts
December 29 2016 18:19 GMT
#17537
On December 30 2016 01:49 krajew4 wrote:
Which race do you play?

To which control group would you like to assign newly created units?



Marines into control group on key 1
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8231 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-29 23:17:09
December 29 2016 23:12 GMT
#17538
On December 29 2016 21:52 snickasaurus wrote:
Is there a way to automatically add units to a control group as they are produced? ie automatically without having to shift click them into the control group?

If the answer to this is "No" then presumably it's for good reason or bad practice does anyone know why?


No. Reason being that it requires a bit extra micro and awareness to know when your units are ready and to group them up with the rest. If it was done automatically you'd be playing Nexus wars (well, not really, but still). It's an extra factor that separates the good players vs the bad.

plus not to mention that i would create a bad habit; you don't always want Marines in group 1. What if you're attacking with a bunch of units, and the enemy drops inside your base? You send your newly created units to defend, then you go back to micro your main army, and suddenly your newly created marines are running across the map instead of defending back home, and then you have to unbind your marines before you can use them again, meanwhile you're not microing your main army-and omg everything you own is dead.
snickasaurus
Profile Joined December 2016
United Kingdom11 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-30 10:10:21
December 30 2016 10:04 GMT
#17539
Secionared
Profile Joined January 2017
8 Posts
January 26 2017 01:51 GMT
#17540
Hello! I usually def cannon rush but i have one big problem. So i am zerg and when enemy probe block a cannon with pylon in a corner its usually mean for me that i lose game becouse i cant beat this cannon with 2 drones which attack this pylone ( may someone will help?

thanks a lot
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