EPT[D/H] The end of Supply Depots? - Page 10
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kariido
Saudi Arabia179 Posts
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michaelhasanalias
Korea (South)1231 Posts
On December 02 2010 19:35 ledarsi wrote: Cryosin you are full of it. There is no way you can get a 200/200 army in 14 minutes with this build. It's beyond impossible. I mean seriously, when did your orbital commands finish? Post the replay please. 200 supply +1/+1 CS/S army in 13:37 with 3k income: + Show Spoiler + 0:02.00: 50M 0G 0E 6/ 11S - Build SCV 0:19.00: 73M 0G 0E 7/ 11S - Build SCV 0:36.00: 106M 0G 0E 8/ 11S - Build SCV 0:53.00: 150M 0G 0E 9/ 11S - Build SCV 0:53.03: 100M 0G 0E 10/ 11S - Build Supply Depot 1:10.00: 91M 0G 0E 10/ 11S - Build SCV 1:27.00: 147M 0G 0E 11/ 19S - Build SCV 1:34.04: 150M 0G 0E 12/ 19S - Build Barracks (Naked) 1:44.00: 67M 0G 0E 12/ 19S - Build SCV 2:01.00: 149M 0G 0E 13/ 19S - Build SCV 2:18.00: 244M 0G 0E 14/ 19S - Build SCV 2:35.00: 350M 0G 0E 15/ 19S - Build Orbital Command 2:54.37: 400M 0G 0E 15/ 19S - Build Command Center 3:10.00: 145M 0G 50E 15/ 19S - Calldown MULE 3:10.00: 145M 0G 0E 15/ 19S - Build SCV 3:10.00: 95M 0G 0E 16/ 19S - Build Marine 3:35.00: 362M 0G 14E 17/ 19S - Build Marine 3:35.00: 312M 0G 14E 18/ 19S - Build Barracks (Naked) 4:00.00: 482M 0G 28E 18/ 19S - Build Marine 4:34.37: 875M 0G 47E 19/ 30S - Build Marine 4:34.37: 825M 0G 47E 20/ 30S - Build Command Center 4:35.00: 432M 0G 48E 20/ 30S - Build Marine 4:36.52: 400M 0G 49E 21/ 30S - Build Command Center 4:38.89: 26M 0G 50E 21/ 30S - Calldown MULE 4:49.36: 150M 0G 6E 21/ 30S - Build Barracks (Naked) 4:59.37: 118M 0G 12E 21/ 30S - Build Marine 5:00.00: 76M 0G 12E 22/ 30S - Build Marine 5:01.98: 50M 0G 13E 23/ 30S - Build SCV 5:14.23: 150M 0G 20E 24/ 30S - Build Barracks (Naked) 5:24.37: 117M 0G 26E 24/ 30S - Build Marine 5:25.00: 74M 0G 26E 25/ 30S - Build Marine 5:35.26: 150M 0G 32E 26/ 30S - Build Orbital Command 5:49.36: 173M 0G 40E 26/ 30S - Build Marine 5:49.37: 123M 0G 40E 27/ 30S - Build Marine 5:50.00: 81M 0G 40E 28/ 30S - Build Marine 6:07.78: 257M 0G 50E 29/ 30S - Calldown MULE 6:10.26: 289M 0G 1E 29/ 30S - Calldown MULE 6:14.37: 349M 0G 4E 29/ 41S - Build Orbital Command 6:14.37: 199M 0G 4E 29/ 41S - Build Marine 6:14.37: 149M 0G 4E 30/ 41S - Build Marine 6:14.37: 99M 0G 4E 31/ 41S - Build Marine 6:15.00: 59M 0G 4E 32/ 41S - Build Marine 6:22.92: 150M 0G 9E 33/ 52S - Build Orbital Command 6:25.60: 50M 0G 10E 33/ 52S - Build SCV 6:28.28: 50M 0G 12E 34/ 52S - Build SCV 6:39.37: 207M 0G 18E 35/ 52S - Build Marine 6:39.37: 157M 0G 18E 36/ 52S - Build Marine 6:39.37: 107M 0G 18E 37/ 52S - Build Marine 6:40.00: 69M 0G 18E 38/ 52S - Build Marine 6:42.60: 67M 0G 20E 39/ 52S - Build SCV 6:45.28: 67M 0G 21E 40/ 52S - Build SCV 6:49.37: 98M 0G 23E 41/ 52S - Build SCV 6:49.37: 48M 0G 23E 42/ 52S - Calldown MULE 6:57.92: 235M 0G 28E 42/ 52S - Build SCV 6:57.92: 185M 0G 28E 43/ 52S - Build Supply Depot 6:57.92: 85M 0G 28E 43/ 52S - Calldown MULE 6:59.60: 121M 0G 29E 43/ 52S - Build SCV 7:02.28: 134M 0G 31E 44/ 52S - Build SCV Waypoint 1 satisfied: 7:05.00: 155M 0G 32E 45/ 52S Income: 1596M 0G Buildings: 4 Barracks 4 Orbital Command Units: 21 SCV 20 Marine Research: 7:06.37: 191M 0G 33E 45/ 52S - Build SCV 7:14.92: 373M 0G 38E 46/ 52S - Build SCV 7:16.60: 368M 0G 39E 47/ 52S - Build SCV 7:19.28: 393M 0G 40E 48/ 52S - Build SCV 7:21.26: 400M 0G 41E 49/ 52S - Build Command Center 7:23.37: 59M 0G 43E 49/ 52S - Build SCV 7:31.92: 252M 0G 47E 50/ 60S - Build SCV 7:31.92: 202M 0G 47E 51/ 60S - Build Supply Depot 7:33.60: 148M 0G 48E 51/ 60S - Build SCV 7:33.68: 100M 0G 48E 52/ 60S - Build Supply Depot 7:36.28: 71M 0G 50E 52/ 60S - Build SCV 7:36.67: 32M 0G 50E 53/ 60S - Calldown MULE 7:38.14: 75M 0G 1E 53/ 60S - Build Refinery 7:40.37: 67M 0G 2E 53/ 60S - Build SCV 7:44.89: 150M 0G 5E 54/ 60S - Build Barracks (Naked) 7:48.92: 106M 0G 7E 54/ 60S - Build SCV 7:50.60: 100M 0G 8E 55/ 60S - Build SCV 7:53.28: 124M 0G 9E 56/ 60S - Build SCV 7:53.28: 74M 0G 9E 57/ 60S - Calldown MULE 7:57.37: 194M 0G 12E 57/ 60S - Build SCV 8:05.92: 420M 0G 16E 58/ 76S - Build SCV 8:07.60: 425M 0G 17E 59/ 76S - Build SCV 8:10.28: 467M 0G 19E 60/ 76S - Build SCV 8:14.37: 565M 0G 21E 61/ 76S - Build SCV 8:18.26: 659M 0G 23E 62/ 76S - Calldown MULE 8:22.92: 837M 0G 26E 62/ 76S - Build SCV 8:24.60: 850M 0G 27E 63/ 76S - Build SCV 8:26.81: 884M 0G 28E 64/ 76S - Calldown MULE 8:26.81: 884M 0G 28E 64/ 76S - Move SCV To Gas 8:26.81: 884M 0G 28E 64/ 76S - Build Barracks (Naked) 8:26.81: 734M 0G 28E 64/ 76S - Move SCV To Gas 8:26.81: 734M 0G 28E 64/ 76S - Build Barracks (Naked) 8:26.81: 584M 0G 28E 64/ 76S - Build Command Center 8:27.28: 199M 0G 28E 64/ 76S - Build SCV 8:27.30: 150M 0G 28E 65/ 76S - Build Barracks (Naked) 8:31.37: 134M 3G 31E 65/ 76S - Build SCV 8:39.92: 382M 14G 36E 66/ 76S - Build SCV 8:41.60: 391M 16G 37E 67/ 76S - Build SCV 8:44.28: 439M 20G 38E 68/ 76S - Build SCV 8:44.28: 389M 20G 38E 69/ 76S - Build Marine 8:45.90: 400M 22G 39E 70/ 76S - Build Command Center 8:48.37: 90M 25G 40E 70/ 76S - Build SCV 8:48.64: 50M 25G 40E 71/ 76S - Build Marine 8:48.64: 0M 25G 40E 72/ 76S - Move SCV To Gas 8:50.03: 50M 27G 41E 72/ 76S - Build Marine 8:56.92: 257M 40G 45E 73/ 76S - Build SCV 8:58.60: 270M 43G 46E 74/ 76S - Build SCV 8:58.60: 220M 43G 46E 75/ 76S - Build Marine 9:01.26: 272M 48G 48E 76/ 87S - Build SCV 9:01.28: 223M 48G 48E 77/ 87S - Build SCV 9:05.37: 337M 56G 50E 78/ 87S - Build SCV 9:13.92: 628M 72G 55E 79/ 87S - Build SCV 9:13.92: 578M 72G 55E 80/ 87S - Build Marine 9:13.92: 528M 72G 55E 81/ 87S - Build Marine 9:13.92: 478M 72G 55E 82/ 87S - Build Barracks Reactor 9:13.92: 428M 22G 55E 82/ 87S - Build Command Center 9:15.03: 69M 24G 55E 82/ 87S - Build Marine 9:17.20: 100M 28G 57E 83/ 87S - Build Supply Depot 9:23.60: 242M 40G 60E 83/ 87S - Build Marine 9:23.60: 192M 40G 60E 84/ 87S - Calldown MULE 9:23.60: 192M 40G 10E 84/ 87S - Build Refinery 9:26.81: 240M 46G 12E 84/ 87S - Build Marine 9:26.81: 190M 46G 12E 85/ 87S - Build Marine 9:27.05: 150M 47G 12E 86/ 87S - Build Barracks (Naked) 9:30.99: 150M 54G 14E 86/ 87S - Build Barracks (Naked) 9:32.31: 50M 57G 15E 86/ 87S - Build Barracks Tech Lab 9:38.92: 271M 44G 19E 86/ 87S - Build Marine 9:47.20: 565M 60G 23E 87/ 95S - Build Marine 9:47.20: 515M 60G 23E 88/ 95S - Build Barracks Tech Lab 9:48.60: 523M 38G 24E 88/ 95S - Build Marine 9:48.60: 473M 38G 24E 89/ 95S - Build Barracks (Naked) 9:51.81: 449M 44G 26E 89/ 95S - Build Marine 9:51.81: 399M 44G 26E 90/ 95S - Build Engineering Bay 9:51.81: 274M 44G 26E 90/ 95S - Build Marine 9:51.81: 224M 44G 26E 91/ 95S - Calldown MULE 9:57.31: 436M 54G 29E 91/ 95S - Build Marine 9:57.31: 386M 54G 29E 92/ 95S - Build Barracks (Naked) 9:57.31: 236M 54G 29E 92/ 95S - Move SCV To Gas 9:57.31: 236M 54G 29E 92/ 95S - Build Barracks (Naked) 9:57.31: 86M 54G 29E 92/ 95S - Calldown MULE 9:57.31: 86M 54G 29E 92/ 95S - Calldown MULE 10:05.18: 400M 73G 34E 92/ 95S - Build Command Center 10:06.41: 50M 76G 34E 92/ 95S - Build Marine 10:07.63: 50M 79G 35E 93/106S - Build Marine 10:08.85: 50M 81G 36E 94/106S - Build Marine 10:12.20: 140M 90G 37E 95/106S - Build Marine 10:12.20: 90M 90G 37E 96/106S - Build Marine 10:13.60: 98M 93G 38E 97/106S - Build Marine 10:15.44: 125M 98G 39E 98/106S - Build Engineering Bay 10:16.81: 55M 101G 40E 98/106S - Build Marine 10:20.39: 150M 110G 42E 99/106S - Build Barracks (Naked) 10:20.39: 0M 110G 42E 99/106S - Move SCV To Gas 10:26.81: 256M 128G 46E 99/117S - Research Infantry Armor 1 10:26.81: 156M 28G 46E 99/117S - Build Marine 10:26.81: 106M 28G 46E 100/117S - Build Marine 10:27.05: 67M 29G 46E 101/117S - Build Marine 10:30.99: 179M 41G 48E 102/117S - Build Marine 10:31.41: 146M 42G 48E 103/117S - Build Marine 10:32.63: 148M 46G 49E 104/117S - Build Marine 10:34.44: 176M 51G 50E 105/117S - Calldown MULE 10:34.44: 176M 51G 0E 105/117S - Move SCV To Gas 10:34.44: 176M 51G 0E 105/117S - Build Marine 10:36.93: 231M 59G 1E 106/117S - Calldown MULE 10:37.20: 243M 60G 2E 106/117S - Build Marine 10:37.20: 193M 60G 2E 107/117S - Build Marine 10:37.20: 143M 60G 2E 108/117S - Build Supply Depot 10:38.60: 104M 65G 2E 108/117S - Build Marine 10:39.64: 100M 69G 3E 109/117S - Build Supply Depot 10:41.81: 99M 76G 4E 109/117S - Build Marine 10:50.44: 457M 107G 9E 110/117S - Research Infantry Weapons 1 10:50.44: 357M 7G 9E 110/117S - Build Marine 10:51.81: 372M 12G 10E 111/117S - Build Marine 10:51.81: 322M 12G 10E 112/117S - Build Marine 10:52.05: 283M 13G 10E 113/117S - Build Marine 10:55.99: 423M 27G 12E 114/128S - Build Marine 10:56.41: 394M 29G 12E 115/128S - Build Marine 10:56.41: 344M 29G 12E 116/128S - Build Barracks (Naked) 10:56.41: 194M 29G 12E 116/128S - Build Barracks (Naked) 10:57.31: 84M 32G 13E 116/128S - Build Marine 10:57.67: 50M 33G 13E 117/128S - Build Marine 10:58.80: 50M 37G 14E 118/128S - Build Marine 10:59.93: 50M 41G 14E 119/128S - Build Marine 11:02.20: 101M 49G 16E 120/128S - Build Marine 11:02.20: 51M 49G 16E 121/128S - Build Marine 11:03.60: 67M 54G 16E 122/128S - Build Marine 11:06.81: 167M 66G 18E 123/128S - Build Marine 11:16.04: 552M 99G 23E 124/144S - Calldown MULE 11:16.33: 566M 100G 24E 124/144S - Research Stimpack 11:16.33: 466M 0G 24E 124/144S - Build Marine 11:16.81: 439M 2G 24E 125/144S - Build Marine 11:16.81: 389M 2G 24E 126/144S - Build Marine 11:17.05: 351M 3G 24E 127/144S - Build Marine 11:20.39: 465M 15G 26E 128/144S - Build Marine 11:20.99: 446M 17G 26E 129/144S - Build Marine 11:21.06: 400M 17G 26E 130/144S - Build Command Center 11:24.59: 175M 30G 28E 130/144S - Calldown MULE 11:24.59: 175M 30G 28E 130/144S - Build Marine 11:24.59: 125M 30G 28E 131/144S - Build Marine 11:24.59: 75M 30G 28E 132/144S - Build Marine 11:25.10: 50M 31G 28E 133/144S - Build Marine 11:26.16: 50M 35G 29E 134/144S - Build Marine 11:27.21: 50M 39G 30E 135/144S - Build Marine 11:28.22: 50M 43G 30E 136/144S - Build Marine 11:29.21: 50M 46G 31E 137/144S - Build Marine 11:31.81: 122M 55G 32E 138/144S - Build Marine 11:41.33: 499M 90G 38E 139/144S - Build Marine 11:41.33: 449M 90G 38E 140/144S - Build Supply Depot 11:41.81: 370M 91G 38E 140/144S - Build Marine 11:41.81: 320M 91G 38E 141/144S - Move SCV To Minerals 11:41.81: 320M 91G 38E 141/144S - Build Marine 11:41.81: 270M 91G 38E 142/144S - Move SCV To Minerals 11:41.81: 270M 91G 38E 142/144S - Move SCV To Minerals 11:46.39: 476M 100G 40E 142/155S - Research Combat Shield 11:46.39: 376M 0G 40E 142/155S - Build Supply Depot 11:46.39: 276M 0G 40E 142/155S - Build Marine 11:46.39: 226M 0G 40E 143/155S - Move SCV To Minerals 11:46.39: 226M 0G 40E 143/155S - Move SCV To Minerals 11:46.39: 226M 0G 40E 143/155S - Move SCV To Minerals 11:46.39: 226M 0G 40E 143/155S - Build Marine 11:46.39: 176M 0G 40E 144/155S - Build Marine 11:49.59: 275M 0G 42E 145/155S - Build Marine 11:49.59: 225M 0G 42E 146/155S - Build Marine 11:49.59: 175M 0G 42E 147/155S - Build Marine 11:50.10: 150M 0G 43E 148/155S - Build Marine 11:51.16: 151M 0G 43E 149/155S - Build Marine 11:51.16: 101M 0G 43E 150/155S - Build Supply Depot 11:52.21: 50M 0G 44E 150/155S - Build Marine 11:53.25: 50M 0G 44E 151/155S - Build Marine 11:54.31: 50M 0G 45E 152/155S - Build Marine 11:56.41: 100M 0G 46E 153/155S - Build Marine 11:56.41: 50M 0G 46E 154/155S - Build Marine 12:03.33: 335M 0G 50E 155/155S - Calldown MULE 12:05.82: 458M 0G 1E 155/155S - Calldown MULE 12:05.82: 458M 0G 1E 155/155S - Build Orbital Command 12:11.33: 587M 0G 4E 155/163S - Build Marine 12:11.33: 537M 0G 4E 156/163S - Build Marine 12:11.33: 487M 0G 4E 157/163S - Build Marine 12:11.33: 437M 0G 4E 158/163S - Build Marine 12:11.33: 387M 0G 4E 159/163S - Build Supply Depot 12:11.39: 290M 0G 5E 159/163S - Build Marine 12:11.39: 240M 0G 5E 160/163S - Build Marine 12:11.39: 190M 0G 5E 161/163S - Build Marine 12:14.59: 294M 0G 6E 162/163S - Build Marine 12:14.59: 244M 0G 6E 163/163S - Build Supply Depot 12:16.39: 228M 0G 7E 163/171S - Build Marine 12:16.39: 178M 0G 7E 164/171S - Build Marine 12:16.39: 128M 0G 7E 165/171S - Build Marine 12:16.39: 78M 0G 7E 166/171S - Build Marine 12:17.21: 68M 0G 8E 167/171S - Build Marine 12:18.25: 68M 0G 8E 168/171S - Build Marine 12:19.31: 69M 0G 9E 169/171S - Build Marine 12:21.41: 121M 0G 10E 170/179S - Build Marine 12:21.41: 71M 0G 10E 171/179S - Build Marine 12:21.41: 21M 0G 10E 172/179S - Move SCV To Gas 12:36.33: 755M 8G 19E 172/179S - Build Marine 12:36.33: 705M 8G 19E 173/179S - Build Marine 12:36.33: 655M 8G 19E 174/179S - Build Marine 12:36.33: 605M 8G 19E 175/179S - Move SCV To Gas 12:36.33: 605M 8G 19E 175/179S - Move SCV To Gas 12:36.33: 605M 8G 19E 175/179S - Build Marine 12:36.39: 558M 8G 19E 176/179S - Build Marine 12:36.39: 508M 8G 19E 177/179S - Build Marine 12:36.39: 458M 8G 19E 178/179S - Build Marine 12:41.33: 645M 15G 21E 179/187S - Build Marine 12:44.93: 769M 22G 23E 180/195S - Calldown MULE 12:44.93: 769M 22G 23E 180/195S - Build Marine 12:44.93: 719M 22G 23E 181/195S - Build Orbital Command 12:44.93: 569M 22G 23E 181/195S - Build Marine 12:44.93: 519M 22G 23E 182/195S - Build Marine 12:44.93: 469M 22G 23E 183/195S - Build Marine 12:44.93: 419M 22G 23E 184/195S - Build Marine 12:44.93: 369M 22G 23E 185/195S - Build Marine 12:44.93: 319M 22G 23E 186/195S - Build Marine 12:46.41: 340M 25G 24E 187/195S - Build Marine 12:46.41: 290M 25G 24E 188/195S - Build Marine 12:46.41: 240M 25G 24E 189/195S - Move SCV To Gas 12:46.41: 240M 25G 24E 189/195S - Move SCV To Gas 12:46.41: 240M 25G 24E 189/195S - Build Orbital Command 12:53.48: 431M 44G 28E 189/195S - Calldown MULE 13:01.33: 812M 68G 33E 189/206S - Build Marine 13:01.33: 762M 68G 33E 190/206S - Build Marine 13:01.33: 712M 68G 33E 191/206S - Build Orbital Command 13:01.33: 562M 68G 33E 191/206S - Build Orbital Command 13:01.33: 412M 68G 33E 191/206S - Build Orbital Command 13:01.33: 262M 68G 33E 191/206S - Build Marine 13:01.33: 212M 68G 33E 192/206S - Build Marine 13:01.39: 165M 68G 33E 193/206S - Build Marine 13:01.39: 115M 68G 33E 194/206S - Build Marine 13:01.39: 65M 68G 33E 195/206S - Build Marine 13:06.33: 257M 83G 35E 196/206S - Build Marine 13:09.93: 384M 94G 37E 197/206S - Build Marine 13:09.93: 334M 94G 37E 198/206S - Build Marine 13:09.93: 284M 94G 37E 199/206S - Build Marine 13:09.93: 234M 94G 37E 200/206S - Build Marine 13:09.93: 184M 94G 37E 201/206S - Build Marine 13:09.93: 134M 94G 37E 202/206S - Build Marine 13:09.93: 84M 94G 37E 203/206S - Build Marine 13:11.41: 106M 98G 38E 204/206S - Build Marine 13:11.41: 57M 98G 38E 205/206S - Build Marine Waypoint 2 satisfied: 13:36.41: 1235M 173G 52E 206/206S Income: 2769M 181G Buildings: 2 Refinery 16 Barracks 10 Orbital Command 2 Engineering Bay 1 Reactor 2 Tech Lab Units: 56 SCV 150 Marine Research: Stimpack Combat Shield Infantry Weapons 1 Infantry Armor 1 200 supply +2/+2 CS/S marine army at 14 minutes with 3k income: + Show Spoiler + 0:02.00: 50M 0G 0E 6/ 11S - Build SCV 0:19.00: 73M 0G 0E 7/ 11S - Build SCV 0:36.00: 106M 0G 0E 8/ 11S - Build SCV 0:53.00: 150M 0G 0E 9/ 11S - Build SCV 0:53.03: 100M 0G 0E 10/ 11S - Build Supply Depot 1:10.00: 91M 0G 0E 10/ 11S - Build SCV 1:27.00: 147M 0G 0E 11/ 19S - Build SCV 1:34.04: 150M 0G 0E 12/ 19S - Build Barracks (Naked) 1:44.00: 67M 0G 0E 12/ 19S - Build SCV 2:01.00: 149M 0G 0E 13/ 19S - Build SCV 2:18.00: 244M 0G 0E 14/ 19S - Build SCV 2:35.00: 350M 0G 0E 15/ 19S - Build Orbital Command 2:54.37: 400M 0G 0E 15/ 19S - Build Command Center 3:10.00: 145M 0G 50E 15/ 19S - Build SCV 3:10.00: 95M 0G 50E 16/ 19S - Build Marine 3:10.00: 45M 0G 50E 17/ 19S - Calldown MULE 3:35.00: 362M 0G 14E 17/ 19S - Build Marine 3:35.00: 312M 0G 14E 18/ 19S - Build Barracks (Naked) 4:00.00: 482M 0G 28E 18/ 19S - Build Marine 4:34.37: 875M 0G 47E 19/ 30S - Build Marine 4:34.37: 825M 0G 47E 20/ 30S - Build Command Center 4:35.00: 432M 0G 48E 20/ 30S - Build Marine 4:36.52: 400M 0G 49E 21/ 30S - Build Command Center 4:38.89: 26M 0G 50E 21/ 30S - Calldown MULE 4:49.36: 150M 0G 6E 21/ 30S - Build Barracks (Naked) 4:59.37: 118M 0G 12E 21/ 30S - Build Marine 5:00.00: 76M 0G 12E 22/ 30S - Build Marine 5:01.98: 50M 0G 13E 23/ 30S - Build SCV 5:14.23: 150M 0G 20E 24/ 30S - Build Barracks (Naked) 5:24.37: 117M 0G 26E 24/ 30S - Build Marine 5:25.00: 74M 0G 26E 25/ 30S - Build Marine 5:35.26: 150M 0G 32E 26/ 30S - Build Orbital Command 5:49.36: 173M 0G 40E 26/ 30S - Build Marine 5:49.37: 123M 0G 40E 27/ 30S - Build Marine 5:50.00: 81M 0G 40E 28/ 30S - Build Marine 6:07.78: 257M 0G 50E 29/ 30S - Calldown MULE 6:10.26: 289M 0G 1E 29/ 30S - Calldown MULE 6:14.37: 349M 0G 4E 29/ 41S - Build Orbital Command 6:14.37: 199M 0G 4E 29/ 41S - Build Marine 6:14.37: 149M 0G 4E 30/ 41S - Build Marine 6:14.37: 99M 0G 4E 31/ 41S - Build Marine 6:15.00: 59M 0G 4E 32/ 41S - Build Marine 6:22.92: 150M 0G 9E 33/ 52S - Build Orbital Command 6:25.60: 50M 0G 10E 33/ 52S - Build SCV 6:28.28: 50M 0G 12E 34/ 52S - Build SCV 6:39.37: 207M 0G 18E 35/ 52S - Build Marine 6:39.37: 157M 0G 18E 36/ 52S - Build Marine 6:39.37: 107M 0G 18E 37/ 52S - Build Marine 6:40.00: 69M 0G 18E 38/ 52S - Build Marine 6:42.60: 67M 0G 20E 39/ 52S - Build SCV 6:45.28: 67M 0G 21E 40/ 52S - Build SCV 6:49.37: 98M 0G 23E 41/ 52S - Calldown MULE 6:49.37: 98M 0G 23E 41/ 52S - Build Refinery 6:50.83: 50M 0G 24E 41/ 52S - Build SCV 6:57.92: 153M 0G 28E 42/ 52S - Build SCV 6:59.60: 141M 0G 29E 43/ 52S - Build SCV 7:00.02: 100M 0G 29E 44/ 52S - Build Supply Depot 7:02.38: 50M 0G 31E 44/ 52S - Build SCV 7:02.38: 0M 0G 31E 45/ 52S - Calldown MULE Waypoint 1 satisfied: 7:05.00: 57M 0G 32E 45/ 52S Income: 1338M 0G Buildings: 4 Barracks 4 Orbital Command Units: 21 SCV 20 Marine Research: 7:07.83: 130M 0G 34E 45/ 52S - Build SCV 7:07.83: 80M 0G 34E 46/ 52S - Build Refinery 7:14.92: 186M 0G 38E 46/ 52S - Build SCV 7:16.60: 179M 0G 39E 47/ 52S - Build SCV 7:19.37: 204M 0G 40E 48/ 52S - Move SCV To Gas 7:19.37: 204M 0G 40E 48/ 52S - Move SCV To Gas 7:19.37: 204M 0G 40E 48/ 52S - Build Supply Depot 7:19.38: 104M 0G 40E 48/ 52S - 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Calldown MULE 8:26.81: 377M 209G 28E 58/ 68S - Move SCV To Gas 8:26.81: 377M 209G 28E 58/ 68S - Build Barracks (Naked) 8:26.81: 227M 209G 28E 58/ 68S - Build SCV 8:26.81: 177M 209G 28E 59/ 68S - Build SCV 8:26.81: 127M 209G 28E 60/ 68S - Build SCV 8:33.83: 288M 241G 32E 61/ 68S - Research Infantry Armor 1 8:33.83: 188M 141G 32E 61/ 68S - Build SCV 8:33.83: 138M 141G 32E 62/ 68S - Build Marine 8:35.42: 140M 149G 33E 63/ 68S - Research Infantry Weapons 1 8:35.75: 50M 50G 33E 63/ 68S - Build Marine 8:39.09: 100M 67G 35E 64/ 68S - Build Supply Depot 8:43.81: 140M 90G 38E 64/ 68S - Build SCV 8:43.81: 90M 90G 38E 65/ 68S - Build Marine 8:44.14: 50M 92G 38E 66/ 68S - Build Marine 8:48.87: 150M 115G 41E 67/ 68S - Build Barracks (Naked) 8:58.83: 318M 164G 46E 67/ 68S - Build Barracks Tech Lab 9:00.75: 330M 148G 47E 67/ 68S - Build Marine 9:00.75: 280M 148G 47E 68/ 68S - Build Barracks (Naked) 9:05.56: 281M 172G 50E 68/ 68S - Calldown MULE 9:05.56: 281M 172G 0E 68/ 68S - Build Supply Depot 9:09.09: 293M 189G 2E 68/ 76S - Build SCV 9:09.09: 243M 189G 2E 69/ 76S - Build SCV 9:09.09: 193M 189G 2E 70/ 76S - Build SCV 9:09.09: 143M 189G 2E 71/ 76S - Build SCV 9:09.09: 93M 189G 2E 72/ 76S - Calldown MULE 9:10.86: 150M 198G 3E 72/ 76S - Build Factory (Naked) 9:20.02: 286M 143G 8E 72/ 87S - Build SCV 9:26.09: 434M 173G 12E 73/ 87S - Build SCV 9:26.09: 384M 173G 12E 74/ 87S - Build Marine 9:26.09: 334M 173G 12E 75/ 87S - Build Marine 9:26.09: 284M 173G 12E 76/ 87S - Build Marine 9:47.15: 996M 277G 23E 77/ 95S - Calldown MULE 9:47.15: 996M 277G 23E 77/ 95S - Build Supply Depot 9:47.15: 896M 277G 23E 77/ 95S - Build Barracks (Naked) 9:47.15: 746M 277G 23E 77/ 95S - Research Stimpack 9:47.15: 646M 177G 23E 77/ 95S - Build Barracks Reactor 9:47.15: 596M 127G 23E 77/ 95S - Build SCV 9:47.15: 546M 127G 23E 78/ 95S - Build Barracks (Naked) 9:47.15: 396M 127G 23E 78/ 95S - Build Barracks (Naked) 9:47.15: 246M 127G 23E 78/ 95S - Build Marine 9:48.87: 253M 135G 24E 79/ 95S - Build Marine 9:48.87: 203M 135G 24E 80/ 95S - Build Barracks (Naked) 9:55.70: 283M 169G 28E 80/ 95S - Calldown MULE 9:55.70: 283M 169G 28E 80/ 95S - Build Marine 9:55.70: 233M 169G 28E 81/ 95S - Build Barracks Tech Lab 10:10.86: 742M 218G 37E 81/106S - Build Armory 10:10.86: 592M 118G 37E 81/106S - Build Command Center 10:10.86: 192M 118G 37E 81/106S - Build Marine 10:10.86: 142M 118G 37E 82/106S - Build Marine 10:11.08: 100M 119G 37E 83/106S - Build Supply Depot 10:12.55: 50M 126G 38E 83/106S - Build Marine 10:14.03: 50M 134G 39E 84/106S - Build SCV 10:15.50: 50M 141G 39E 85/106S - Build SCV 10:16.92: 50M 148G 40E 86/106S - Build SCV 10:18.31: 50M 155G 41E 87/114S - Build Marine 10:20.70: 85M 166G 42E 88/114S - Build Marine 10:21.10: 50M 168G 42E 89/114S - Build Marine 10:22.49: 50M 175G 43E 90/114S - Build SCV 10:34.44: 443M 234G 50E 91/114S - Calldown MULE 10:35.86: 497M 241G 1E 91/114S - Build Marine 10:35.86: 447M 241G 1E 92/114S - Build Marine 10:37.15: 448M 247G 2E 93/114S - Build Marine 10:37.15: 398M 247G 2E 94/114S - Build SCV 10:37.15: 348M 247G 2E 95/114S - 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Build Marine 11:16.04: 560M 353G 23E 108/130S - Build Marine 11:16.04: 510M 353G 23E 109/130S - Research Infantry Weapons 2 11:16.04: 335M 178G 23E 109/130S - Build Marine 11:16.04: 285M 178G 23E 110/130S - Build Marine 11:16.04: 235M 178G 23E 111/130S - Research Infantry Armor 2 11:16.04: 60M 3G 23E 111/130S - Build Marine 11:17.00: 50M 8G 24E 112/130S - Build Marine 11:24.59: 325M 50G 28E 113/130S - Calldown MULE 11:24.59: 325M 50G 28E 113/130S - Build Marine 11:24.59: 275M 50G 28E 114/130S - Build Marine 11:24.59: 225M 50G 28E 115/130S - Build Marine 11:24.59: 175M 50G 28E 116/130S - Build Barracks (Naked) 11:25.20: 50M 53G 29E 116/130S - Build Marine 11:26.40: 50M 59G 29E 117/130S - Build Marine 11:27.59: 50M 66G 30E 118/130S - Build Marine 11:36.99: 400M 118G 35E 119/130S - Build Command Center 11:41.04: 166M 140G 37E 119/130S - Build Marine 11:41.04: 116M 140G 37E 120/130S - Build Marine 11:41.04: 66M 140G 37E 121/130S - Build Marine 11:41.86: 50M 144G 38E 122/130S - Build Marine 11:43.08: 50M 151G 39E 123/130S - Build Marine 11:44.30: 50M 158G 39E 124/130S - Build Barracks Reactor 11:49.59: 217M 137G 42E 124/138S - Build Barracks Reactor 11:49.59: 167M 87G 42E 124/138S - Build Marine 11:49.59: 117M 87G 42E 125/138S - Build Barracks Reactor 11:50.20: 92M 40G 43E 125/138S - Build Marine 11:50.20: 42M 40G 43E 126/138S - Move SCV To Minerals 11:50.20: 42M 40G 43E 126/138S - Move SCV To Minerals 11:51.40: 92M 45G 43E 126/149S - Build Marine 11:52.59: 93M 50G 44E 127/149S - Build Marine 11:54.99: 150M 61G 45E 128/149S - Build Barracks (Naked) 12:06.04: 484M 109G 52E 128/149S - Build Marine 12:06.04: 434M 109G 52E 129/149S - Build Marine 12:06.41: 400M 110G 52E 130/149S - Build Command Center 12:08.85: 100M 121G 53E 130/149S - Build Supply Depot 12:10.15: 50M 127G 54E 130/149S - Build Marine 12:11.45: 50M 132G 55E 131/149S - Build Marine 12:12.75: 50M 138G 55E 132/149S - Build Marine 12:14.59: 71M 146G 56E 133/149S - Build Marine 12:15.33: 50M 149G 57E 134/149S - Build Marine 12:16.61: 50M 155G 57E 135/149S - Build Marine 12:16.61: 0M 155G 57E 136/149S - Calldown MULE 12:17.89: 50M 160G 8E 136/149S - Build Marine 12:20.48: 100M 172G 10E 137/149S - Build Supply Depot 12:20.48: 0M 172G 10E 137/149S - Calldown MULE 12:24.59: 160M 190G 12E 137/149S - Build Marine 12:31.04: 383M 218G 16E 138/149S - Build Marine 12:31.04: 333M 218G 16E 139/149S - Build Barracks (Naked) 12:31.04: 183M 218G 16E 139/149S - Move SCV To Minerals 12:31.04: 183M 218G 16E 139/149S - Build Marine 12:34.30: 268M 230G 17E 140/149S - Build Marine 12:34.30: 218M 230G 17E 141/149S - Build Marine 12:35.15: 204M 233G 18E 142/149S - Build Marine 12:36.45: 210M 238G 19E 143/160S - Build Marine 12:37.75: 216M 243G 19E 144/160S - Build Marine 12:39.59: 246M 250G 20E 145/168S - Build Marine 12:39.59: 196M 250G 20E 146/168S - Build Marine 12:39.59: 146M 250G 20E 147/168S - Build Marine 12:39.59: 96M 250G 20E 148/168S - Build Marine 12:39.67: 50M 250G 20E 149/168S - Build Marine 12:40.81: 50M 255G 21E 150/168S - Build Marine 12:44.93: 181M 270G 23E 151/168S - 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Build Supply Depot 13:09.93: 181M 352G 37E 168/176S - Build Marine 13:09.93: 131M 352G 37E 169/176S - Build Marine 13:11.59: 150M 358G 38E 170/176S - Build Orbital Command 13:11.59: 0M 358G 38E 170/176S - Calldown MULE 13:14.59: 126M 369G 40E 170/176S - Build Marine 13:19.99: 322M 390G 43E 171/187S - Build Marine 13:21.04: 320M 394G 44E 172/187S - Build Marine 13:21.04: 270M 394G 44E 173/187S - Build Marine 13:24.30: 371M 406G 46E 174/187S - Build Marine 13:24.30: 321M 406G 46E 175/187S - Build Marine 13:25.15: 310M 409G 46E 176/187S - Build Marine 13:25.15: 260M 409G 46E 177/187S - Move SCV To Minerals 13:26.45: 320M 414G 47E 177/187S - Build Marine 13:27.75: 330M 418G 47E 178/187S - Build Marine 13:29.59: 366M 424G 49E 179/187S - Build Marine 13:29.59: 316M 424G 49E 180/187S - Build Marine 13:29.59: 266M 424G 49E 181/187S - Build Marine 13:29.59: 216M 424G 49E 182/187S - Build Marine 13:29.67: 170M 424G 49E 183/187S - Build Marine 13:32.22: 239M 432G 50E 184/187S - Calldown MULE 13:32.22: 239M 432G 0E 184/187S - Build Marine 13:34.71: 306M 440G 1E 185/187S - Calldown MULE 13:34.71: 306M 440G 1E 185/187S - Build Marine 13:34.93: 266M 440G 2E 186/187S - Build Marine 13:35.81: 259M 443G 2E 187/195S - Build Marine 13:39.59: 405M 455G 4E 188/195S - Build Marine 13:39.59: 355M 455G 4E 189/195S - Move SCV To Gas 13:39.59: 355M 455G 4E 189/195S - Build Orbital Command 13:44.99: 493M 474G 7E 189/195S - Build Marine 13:44.99: 443M 474G 7E 190/195S - Build Orbital Command 13:44.99: 293M 474G 7E 190/195S - Build Orbital Command 13:46.04: 199M 478G 8E 190/195S - Build Marine 13:46.04: 149M 478G 8E 191/195S - Build Marine 13:46.98: 150M 482G 8E 192/206S - Build Orbital Command 13:49.30: 125M 491G 10E 192/206S - Build Marine 13:49.30: 75M 491G 10E 193/206S - Build Marine 13:50.15: 70M 494G 10E 194/206S - Build Marine 13:51.45: 87M 499G 11E 195/206S - Build Marine 13:52.75: 104M 504G 12E 196/206S - Build Marine 13:54.59: 145M 511G 13E 197/206S - Build Marine 13:54.59: 95M 511G 13E 198/206S - Move SCV To Gas 13:54.59: 95M 511G 13E 198/206S - Build Marine 13:54.69: 50M 511G 13E 199/206S - Build Marine 13:55.73: 50M 515G 13E 200/206S - Build Marine 13:56.78: 50M 519G 14E 201/206S - Build Marine 13:57.82: 50M 524G 14E 202/206S - Build Marine 13:59.71: 90M 532G 15E 203/206S - Build Marine 13:59.93: 51M 533G 16E 204/206S - Build Marine 13:59.93: 1M 533G 16E 205/206S - Move SCV To Gas 14:00.97: 50M 538G 16E 205/206S - Build Marine Waypoint 2 satisfied: 14:26.04: 1159M 660G 30E 206/206S Income: 2652M 295G Buildings: 3 Refinery 14 Barracks 10 Orbital Command 2 Engineering Bay 1 Factory 1 Armory 4 Reactor 2 Tech Lab Units: 56 SCV 150 Marine Research: Stimpack Combat Shield Infantry Weapons 1 Infantry Weapons 2 Infantry Armor 1 Infantry Armor 2 :trollface: | ||
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30to1
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by 6:11 you should have the 4th oc about to finish and be starting your 7th rax. | ||
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Shlowpoke
United States102 Posts
On December 03 2010 10:17 30to1 wrote:I think this is a good general benchmark to begin working forward on refining. Obviously this completely neglects defense to 6 minutes but again - as a foundation I think this is a good place to start. I think it's cool that you guys are figuring out the optimal way to do this, but please keep in mind that the way you are approaching this is as a cheese strat, which will make most people say "Oh, that's cute." and then move on. Hell, I have a 4-Gate build that hits at ~5:45. If you want to be taken seriously, please consider an approach that doesn't leave you defenseless against early pressure. | ||
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30to1
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I agree with what you're saying. But I think the way to go with this is to start by pushing the economy as absolutely far as it will go, then begin to scale back until its survivable. Please keep in mind that build is just a starting point! | ||
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Deleted User 124618
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Oh well, if any strategy becomes unbeatable Blizz will simply nerf it. You make an abusive MULE strategy and you will only get your MULEs nerfed. Thank you. | ||
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TheOracle
Australia256 Posts
On a serious note, i'm curious as to how fast this mines out your expo and main. It's fine to have a 200/200 army earlier than them, but if you are almost mined out you can't follow through. I'd want to know how fast you can remax afterwards to continue to throw stuff at them. (Both assuming fresh bases and without fresh bases). If you can get a second or even third wave going off your 2 bases, this could be incredible. | ||
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Shlowpoke
United States102 Posts
On December 03 2010 10:36 30to1 wrote:I agree with what you're saying. But I think the way to go with this is to start by pushing the economy as absolutely far as it will go, then begin to scale back until its survivable. Alright, cool. As long as you're aware of it and you have a plan. Keep it up. ^^ | ||
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Blisse
Canada3710 Posts
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30to1
105 Posts
I've been revising a number of builds, and I think that going for 3oc as a less greedy core is perhaps much more viable. 3rd OC at around 6 minutes, with a nice (small, but probably viable) MM core for defense. Realistically the 3OC core will probably be the heart of these kinds of strats I think. | ||
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Xapti
Canada2473 Posts
For starters, I thought 1 mule mines at the rate of like 3-4 SCVs, not 5-6, but I might have been mistaken (considering how good they seem to be I wouldn't be surprised if it was in fact higher) update: it's about 4 Secondly, you mentioned how MULEs make up for OC cost in 3:20 or something, then a CC's cost-minus-supply is made up in only 1:30. While that is the case, I don't see the reasoning of saying that, since the only thing of value is the time it takes for an OC's cost-minus-supply to be harvested with it's MULEs, because that's what a person is paying for in their investment. Lastly, and most important: The thing about MULEs is while they are efficient, they take a long time to make. time is a critical variable in Starcraft 2. 1 OC takes 135 seconds to make, and costs 412 minerals. 4 SCVs take 68 seconds to make, and cost 200 minerals (well I guess 250 including supply). If another CC or OC was made, the time to get 4 SCVs is cut in half also, which makes them even better. Overall if one was to build OCs, they'd be investing twice as much time (can be more or less depending on other factors) and twice as much minerals to get the same income as SCVs (or a bit less than twice with supply factored in) I am aware however, that those are not the only factors. One of the most important factors is that MULEs can mine over the SCVs, so once a player has 18-20 SCVs mining minerals it becomes efficient to be building orbital commands instead of SCVs, at least if they aren't expanding soon. Overall though, I think that because OCs are a heavier investment in both time and resources, and that this game always has available expansions, that we wouldn't be seeing more than around 2 extra orbital commands per base | ||
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30to1
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On December 03 2010 11:02 Xapti wrote: I didn't get to read all the posts here so I don't know if it's been said already, but some of the information mentioned in the OP seems a bit off. For starters, I thought 1 mule mines at the rate of like 3-4 SCVs, not 5-6, but I might have been mistaken (considering how good they seem to be I wouldn't be surprised if it was in fact higher) update: it's about 4 Secondly, you mentioned how MULEs make up for OC cost in 3:20 or something, then a CC's cost-minus-supply is made up in only 1:30. While that is the case, I don't see the reasoning of saying that, since the only thing of value is the time it takes for an OC's cost-minus-supply to be harvested with it's MULEs, because that's what a person is paying for in their investment. Lastly, and most important: The thing about MULEs is while they are efficient, they take a long time to make. time is a critical variable in Starcraft 2. 1 OC takes 135 seconds to make, and costs 412 minerals. 4 SCVs take 68 seconds to make, and cost 200 minerals. Overall if one was to build OCs, they'd be investing twice as much time and twice as much minerals to get the same income as SCVs. I am aware however, that those are not the only factors. One of the most important factors (aside from gold fields, which make MULEs extremely good) is that MULEs can mine over the SCVs, so once a player has 18-20 SCVs mining minerals it becomes efficient to be building orbital commands instead of SCVs, at least if they aren't expanding soon. Overall though, I think that because OCs are a heavier investment in both time and resources, and that this game always has available expansions, that we wouldn't be seeing more than around 2 extra orbital commands per base The mining rate of an SCV depends on saturation. You're right that if each SCV has its own patch, a mule is only worth 4scvs and change, if you are comparing saturated SCVs - it ends up being closer to between 5 and 6. The simple proof being that 3 SCVs saturate a patch - and 8 patches give you ~800 m income. An OC can generate very close to 200m (you have ~5 seconds with 2 mules). Meaning that each OC is actually almost exactly equal to 6 SCVs - each mule individually is worth like ~5.7 scvs saturated or ~4.5 scvs unsaturated. | ||
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Blisse
Canada3710 Posts
On December 03 2010 11:01 30to1 wrote: I disagree. The strength of the strat is that no other race can match the income rate - scouted or not. I've been revising a number of builds, and I think that going for 3oc as a less greedy core is perhaps much more viable. 3rd OC at around 6 minutes, with a nice (small, but probably viable) MM core for defense. Realistically the 3OC core will probably be the heart of these kinds of strats I think. The strength of the strat only occurs if you survive until the point where that income rate actually matters. Meaning that if you don't make it to that point in the game, why bother playing like this. If the entire game was simply baneling bust into mass speedling, would this build be viable? Not currently. There is a point where you have nothing, and then it becomes you have a ridiculous amount. Before that point, you're vulnerable to everything. The entire goal of this strategy, should then be to reach that point without significant losses. | ||
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
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Deadlift
United States358 Posts
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TheNomad
United States134 Posts
On December 03 2010 11:17 Kishime wrote: On a slightly related note, why not make mules take up 1 or 2 supply while they're on the field? Ok make overlords take up 1 or 2 supply. | ||
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Gman1216
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