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TevZerg
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom4 Posts
November 29 2010 19:33 GMT
#41
Backspace is not hard to use.. Just takes an hour or two of practice.. Don't risk getting used to custom hotkeys that may be disallowed or disabled in the future.. I use backspace for injects, it's really fast and I don't need to use my right hand or take my eyes off the monitor, as I said it just takes a bit of practice. Not to mention that it helps get your land used to moving around the keyboard.
Shucks!
Profile Joined November 2010
United States118 Posts
November 29 2010 19:42 GMT
#42
@severity: yes you can change your grid hotkeys using this method.

@OP: I still find using 4 for Hatches, and then 5,6,7,8 for queens to be most effective.
I imagine with this method once you get used to it it will be faster, but the amount of possible error is much higher. Although I am going to keep my hotkey's set up this way because having grave for hatcheries is pretty sweet anyway.
"Do not look into the eyes of a horse, for the void there will swallow your soul" - LiquidTyler on SotG 12.14.10
Phrencys
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada270 Posts
November 29 2010 19:44 GMT
#43
On November 27 2010 23:03 mlbrandow wrote:
CONS:
-if you expanded into bumfuck nowhere and you're down 1 queen, you may find 30 seconds later, one of your queens is migrating across the map.
- Since each call of 'inject' calls the nearest queen with 25 energy, you can get a situation where two hatcheries label the 'closest queen' as the same one, and you replace its order, meaning it

I believe if you hold shift while doing your cycle, you shouldn't miss an injection as long as you got at least one queen with energy.

CON of using shift: see your CON#1 point.
bobcat
Profile Joined May 2010
United States488 Posts
November 29 2010 19:49 GMT
#44
I usually do queens on 1 2 3 all hatches on 4 tumors on 9 and 0 and army 5-7. 11v22v33v4szzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzerglings!
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kingcoyote
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States546 Posts
November 29 2010 19:55 GMT
#45
On November 29 2010 13:03 bkrow wrote:
Do you know where you can find what the keys on the keyboard are called and what else you could possibly hot key, i am going to be hotkeying stuff all over the place.. For example i always thought the ~ key was the TILDE key not the grave?

Thanks


~ = tilde
` = grave

They are on the same key. The OP keeps calling it grave(`) but then putting a tilde(~) in parentheses.
Malpractice.248
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States734 Posts
November 30 2010 21:38 GMT
#46
Okay, so either i'm dumb or my computers dumb... or the guide is wrong :p

So, i made the notepad thing, saved it, went to make the folder (documents/starcraft II/)
And where it SAYS in the guide there should be a hotkey folder, so, naturally, as it says, i make one (documents/starcraft II/Hotkeys/)

Inside i place the Malpractice.sc2hotkeys file i made from the beginning (which, btw, still denotes the 'type' as a 'text document', is this supposed to be the case?)

And i reload Sc2...
Check menu, hotkeys... Nothing is there >.<

Can anyone help me with this, or show me where to go to do so?
kirbynator
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada503 Posts
December 01 2010 08:54 GMT
#47
same problem here
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
December 01 2010 08:54 GMT
#48
I think your windows is not set to show extensions, and your file is really a .sc2hotkeys.txt
Something along those lines.
`Winter
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom19 Posts
December 02 2010 21:18 GMT
#49
My hotkey list is showing that TownCamera is bound to Grave(Tilde)(two different keys on my keyboard), which should be ` on this UK keyboard, but in game it doesn't do anything, nor does backspace or the ~ key anyone else had this problem?
L6-636536
Profile Joined May 2010
United States94 Posts
December 02 2010 21:25 GMT
#50
I don't get the problem with holding V and clicking on the mini map to inject? But I can see the advantages of this either way.
Skrag
Profile Joined May 2010
United States643 Posts
December 02 2010 21:44 GMT
#51
On December 03 2010 06:25 L6-636536 wrote:
I don't get the problem with holding V and clicking on the mini map to inject? But I can see the advantages of this either way.


I actually thought the minimap injection method would be faster too.

It turns out that using the town camera is a *lot* faster, especially if you use the shift method (which you should always use IMO, because it solves the problem of one inject order canceling another one) because there's no mouse movement. You're literally doing click~click~click~click which can be *very* fast.

Seriously, try and time both methods, I think you'll be very surprised.
"Just go *@#$ing kill him!" -- Day[9] "Thanks for being a jackass though! Enjoy your time on the forums!" - Artosis
CCalms
Profile Joined November 2010
United States341 Posts
December 03 2010 02:54 GMT
#52
On November 28 2010 01:11 Malakov wrote:
What do the pros use for this?

Surely they can't change the game folders on the computer.

On the day9daily with TLO, TLO talked about how he used the minimap with all the queens on one hotkey while day9 talked about how he preferred the backspace trick because he finds it too hard to pinpoint hatcheries on the minimap. I've always liked the minimap myself, but maybe I am just a slow player :S
Skrag
Profile Joined May 2010
United States643 Posts
December 03 2010 07:14 GMT
#53
On December 03 2010 11:54 CCalms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2010 01:11 Malakov wrote:
What do the pros use for this?

Surely they can't change the game folders on the computer.

On the day9daily with TLO, TLO talked about how he used the minimap with all the queens on one hotkey while day9 talked about how he preferred the backspace trick because he finds it too hard to pinpoint hatcheries on the minimap. I've always liked the minimap myself, but maybe I am just a slow player :S


No matter how fast and accurate you are with the mouse, click-key-click-key-click is always going to be faster than move mouse-click-move mouse-click-move mouse-click.

If I recall correctly, though, one thing TLO specifically mentioned is that injecting via minimap still allows you to keep looking at whatever you're looking at, since it doesn't mess up your view. If you're really fast with the mouse and really accurate, that might be a deciding factor. For me personally, using the key (backspace, grave, W, whatever) method cuts the inject time by at *least* a couple seconds. (yes, I'm slow and inaccurate on the minimap)
"Just go *@#$ing kill him!" -- Day[9] "Thanks for being a jackass though! Enjoy your time on the forums!" - Artosis
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
December 03 2010 18:03 GMT
#54
I absolutely don't get your this method.. I tried it with backspace but it does not work at all..

I used this: select all queens, press v, hold shift and backspace click - this one works well.
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
MoreFaSho
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1427 Posts
December 03 2010 18:13 GMT
#55
I used to use the backspace method, the reason I don't like it is because of the hotkey setup I have and that I don't always have a queen for every hatch at some points (or queens die, etc), but the minimap option works well if you know which queens are alive and where.
I always try to shield slam face, just to make sure it doesnt work
-Xios
Profile Joined October 2010
England79 Posts
December 03 2010 18:42 GMT
#56
just thinking, why not use the \ key (qwerty keyboard - uk)

its RIGHT NEXT to the left shift key, seems like a better idea to me.
Heart of the Swarm
opm1s6
Profile Joined September 2010
United States42 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-03 19:22:58
December 03 2010 19:16 GMT
#57
I've been doing something similar, but tell me if I'm totally off....

I bind all my queens to 4, and then all hatches at a mineral location (sometimes I'll build an extra hatch in base). Then I just go location ##, 4, v, click (ex. 55 4 v click, 66 4 v click, 77 4 v click). Essentially each location has it's own hotkey, 5, 6, 7,etc. This way, I don't have to scroll with the mouse, and if I'm also faced with an attack in one location that needs queens to defend, I can just click 4 and send them all there. It also allows me to customize how I spend my larva, so I can choose my newest expansion and just make drones, while I'd want my earliest hatches to make army units. Not sure if you have this flexibility in the typical way.

The only draw back I see is that my screen for a split second needs to be away from my army units. I've tried to solve this by just being faster with the hotkeys, and making sure that after I finish my last inject to immediately hit the hotkey of the pertinent army units.

Am I just being inefficient? I haven't really played with other options much, but this intellectually seems like it provides the best of both worlds.

AnodyneSea
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Jamaica757 Posts
December 03 2010 19:25 GMT
#58
I wanted to do this back in beta but im used to the shift+backspace now, I dont understand why you think it requires 2 hands though, maybe you were uncomfortable moving left hand to the right side of the keyboard? it's really not that big of a deal or hard to get used to, you're doing it the hard way by using 2 hands.
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Tempy
Profile Joined May 2010
United States46 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-03 19:50:13
December 03 2010 19:49 GMT
#59
On December 01 2010 06:38 Malpractice.248 wrote:
Okay, so either i'm dumb or my computers dumb... or the guide is wrong :p

So, i made the notepad thing, saved it, went to make the folder (documents/starcraft II/)
And where it SAYS in the guide there should be a hotkey folder, so, naturally, as it says, i make one (documents/starcraft II/Hotkeys/)

Inside i place the Malpractice.sc2hotkeys file i made from the beginning (which, btw, still denotes the 'type' as a 'text document', is this supposed to be the case?)

And i reload Sc2...
Check menu, hotkeys... Nothing is there >.<

Can anyone help me with this, or show me where to go to do so?


When you save as, change your "Save as type" to "all files" and save it as yourcustomname.sc2hotkeys

worked for me (i used notepad++ but it should still apply)
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Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
December 03 2010 20:10 GMT
#60
so is this legal or can blizzard ban me for this?
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