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Hey all I am not a high ranked player and I am doing ok in Bronze LOL - Anyway I would still like to know; what is the preffered way to go about this.
A) Sac the Overlord - check for Air and make counter
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B) Early Evo a Spore crawler here or their.
In saying this you would still do a scout later in the game if you went early evo?
Any suggestions: Idk maybe you do 3Queens?
Whats the easiest way to detur an early air Terran (Banshee) / Toss ( vr )
cheers in advance.
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A third queen.
Even if they DONT make air you have a third queen to take advantage of creep spreading and transfuse if you need to defend.
EDIT:
another point i might add. Making a spore crawler can be an empty investment. If they dont make air basically you spent +100 minerals on nothing. at least the queen can do other things.
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Even if you go early Evolutionary Chamber, it's still best to have only about 3 or 4 Spore Crawlers around. Unless you're playing against Mass-Freud Ray Protoss, just a few in the right spots will deter any harassment from Banshees, Phoenixs, light number of Void Rays or Mutalisks. Even if he is going Void Rays, they're countered by both Hydralisks and Mutalisks, and those are really integral parts of a Zerg army (at least in my experience against them).
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A is the better option. Making unnecessary spore crawlers is no good, and should be avoided if possible. Overlord scouting should be standard if a ling poke up the ramp doesn't get you the info you need.
If your opponent denies scouting (prevents overlord scout), and you think something fishy is going on, at the least, you gotta make a third queen.
Vs. Terran, if your scouting is denied, you should also tech to lair ASAP in case cloaked banshees are coming and you'll need an overseer. Its better to continue on your build (not alter it by throwing down evo and spores) if you can. If you find out banshees are coming with little time to prepare, and you aren't close to lair, evo and spines might save the day.
Vs. Protoss, not many protoss are rushing void rays these days, they often go phoenix. But I assume at lower levels void ray gg is P's goal, so you probably see it more often. In this case, evo and spores are even more unnecessary (not cost-efficient, no need for the spore's detection), and extra queens should suffice until you figure out whats going on.
Just remember, P or T spent a lot of resources on their air tech, so they are likely light on the groudn forces. After surviving the harass, try to counterpush - at the least, you can deny or take down the expo (if they put one up). If they are still on one base and don't expand shortly after this harass, prepare for an all-innish push
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Hmmm Thanks for the post. I only ask this cause I had a Overlord to Sac but decided ... No im going Hydra Ling vs Terran and im gonna put down 4 spores for main and Expo.
Next thing you know I'm being harrassed like i would be doing with a muta O_o Yes it is painful im sorry Terran players...
Thanks alot though i will try both suggestions.
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Never make spores unless you have to and even then don't build them. What you have to do is make extra queen as you said, BUT it is extremely important that you connect your 2 bases (you have 2 bases right if not.... go read up on proper openings, as vs p or t you should have expantion by 22 food at the latest.) So what u end up is 3 very mobile queens they can hold of 2 vrs or 2 banshies np. 3 might be a problem but at very least you kill 2 and buy some time to build more queens/hydra w/e.
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Yeah sounds like the better option.
Build queens That game i wasn't spreading creep and when the spores failed to do a good enough job i built queens lol and they failed to run fast enough to 3rd expo. xD and gg.
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