The Zerg Help Me Thread - Page 484

On February 18 2013 05:50 veKtory wrote:
Really need help ZvP late game in HOTS. Stalker/Colossi/Tempest literally just shreds everything Zerg has.

On February 20 2013 03:05 nMinhBang wrote:
Hi guys,

So lately my macro has been kind of off, which may have some influence upon this question;
How do I beat a Terran having the following unit composition?
- Raven
- Banshee
- Thor
- Siege Tank
- Hellion
(with scv repair support)

I'm currently ranked as a top platinum player and I came across this composition against a low-diamond player, I played standard (which IMO is Broodlord/Infestor).
I managed to kill off his army a few times with well placed fungals on his cropped up air army, good positioned roaches and neural parasites. (Brood lords had no role as I gave up on them already at this point, as seeing his army absolutely nullified brood lords).
Eventually we both didn't have as massive armies anymore, but he had hellions and I had no gas so zerglings were my only option.. I lost the game obviously.

Would it have been a better option to make Ultralisks? The idea only just crossed my mind, because I don't like using ultras, AT ALL. (Due to brainwashing when Destiny still played sc2 - He thinks Ultras are horrible, and thus so do I.)



Thanks for checking out my question, and I hope I'll be able to get good advice! :D

On February 20 2013 06:30 Henk wrote:
Heya, coulkd you upload the replay of the game you were talking about? I'll take a look at it.

On February 20 2013 07:33 nMinhBang wrote:


Sure! Here it is, do excuse my noobness :D
http://drop.sc/305833

Thanks a lot!

On February 20 2013 07:33 nMinhBang wrote:


Sure! Here it is, do excuse my noobness :D
http://drop.sc/305833

Thanks a lot!

On February 21 2013 02:44 Henk wrote:
Your early game is, and please don't take offense, worthless. You don't seem to have a build, or any plan on what you're going to go. You barely scouted and didn't know he was going mech until really late. I will suggest you use the 4 queen build, which I'll write the BO for in a moment.

Anyway about your game: You scout a 3rd CC, yet you still make lings, but don't attack. Either attack, or make drones. Your 3rd was extremely late. You didn't have an overlord on the ledge near his natural, which you should always have on cloud kingdom. You started hive, but didn't start spire right away. Your 4th was way too late. You supplyblocked yourself in a way that made me sick; you were at 150 supply and had enough money to max right away, but you were supplyblocked. You went broodlords, but had roaches to supplement them instead of corruptors. vs terran, you want 8-10 broodlords, 8-10 infestors, 80 drones, rest of your supply into queens and corruptors. TONS of corruptors. Like, 30+. Add more broodlords if you see he's fighting your BL with a lot of thors.

He was at 200 supply with RAVEN+MECH while you had 150 with roaches. Roaches are supply inefficient, and still your supply count is lower than his. And he had 15 CCs, haha.

So I just stopped watching at 25:00 because there was nothing to see, really. Staying on roaches = dead.

So, BO:

15H16P
2 queens, 2-4 lings
2 more queens
3rd base when your 3rd and 4th queen are at about 50-75%.
5:20 - 2 gas.
Ling speed, 1/1, lair. (With first 450 gas, in this order)
2 more gas when lair starts, 2 more gas when lair finishes. I like to drop a RW when I have some minerals at about 6 min or so, to hold off hellions. (You don't have to, but you can.)

Poke his base with an overlord at 5-6 minutes to see if he's going for a quick 3rd, and if so, hold down the D button some more. Don't make lings yet.

At 8 min send in another overlord to see if he's going mech. If so, +1 roach attack, roach speed, 4th base, make 8 roaches, drone to 80.

Use 8 roaches to defend against hellions. Do not take eco damage from hellions/banshees.

I then like to pump out roaches while I'm getting drop+ovl speed, and drop his main while teching up to broodlords.

I hope this helped a bit. Let me know!

On February 21 2013 15:37 Patriots11 wrote:
Can someone tell me the BEST up to date build openings and transitions (and maybe some good unit comps) for each match up
Im very new to zerg and just switched from toss; was masters toss, but it got old fast.
please dont link builds unless they are up to date
thanks

On February 22 2013 08:12 Mahtasooma wrote:
What's the best way to rally newly produced mutas while harrassing?

Because I bind the eggs to the muta group when I produce them, but they obviously wind up getting caught in the middle of the enemy army or stationary defense while I move between bases, but on the other hand I want them to be as quickly to my flock as possible.