The Zerg Help Me Thread - Page 33

On October 15 2010 14:52 BnK wrote:
how often do you do it?

On October 16 2010 00:13 VAGZ wrote:
Haven't seen Saracen in a while. Has he deserted this thread or what?

I have a question also. What the fuck is the most effective thing to do against HTs? seriously. In 90% of the scenarios where the protoss have HTs i will lose just simply because the spell do too much fucking damage. Even if i dodge the psionic storms my units get to take alot of damage from stalkers and other ranged units instead so its lika a lose lose situation even if you are trying to dodge the storms... And even though all that the storm still does some damage no matter how good you are at dodging. So heavy dmg taken from storm meanwhile taking heavy dmg by stalkers and other shizz while my units cant do shit cuz they're kiting storms <.<

Is like to only thing you can do go muta and try to snipe the HTs while the protoss is afk?

Thanks.

On October 16 2010 00:13 VAGZ wrote:
Haven't seen Saracen in a while. Has he deserted this thread or what?

On October 16 2010 15:41 Cambam wrote:


Roaches are good because they have a lot of hp. Getting burrow and tunneling claws makes it even better. You can burrow for a few seconds and then pop back up. And of course, ultralisks laugh at psionic storm.

On October 16 2010 17:15 Malthius wrote:

Saracen stopped posting at the end of last month after saying that he was giving up on SC2 for a while. The reasons were detailed in his blog post: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=156717

On October 19 2010 09:17 chumpchous wrote:
So I'm having a ridiculously hard time with 1-base bio all-ins at mid/low diamond. Obviously I know banelings/infestors counter this, but the pushes come well before baneling speed/infestors come out, so you have to deal with ling/slow banes.

The problem I'm having is balancing drone production with ling/baneling production. Obviously I scout the raxes and know what I need to be doing, but I always seem to either over drone or underdrone because the timings on these pushes are so damn unpredictable.

Sometimes they'll be at my nat with 8 marines before I have ling speed, so I need to be making lings early. Other times they'll wait until they have a sizable marauder/marine/SCV ball and, if I overproduced lings early on, I wont have the economy to either deal with it as it moves out, or rebuild in time to stop their second push.

Of course I have lings at the ramp to see them move out and produce a bunch of units, but I still get rolled over by it in about 50% of my games just because my ling/drone ratio is off. It's not like dealing with a 4-gate where I just make spine crawlers and units at 30 food. They can start pressuring anywhere between 20-60.

Do any of you guys have tips for this? I was thinking I should just start doing something like making 1 drone for every pair of lings, since it is fairly linear and will scale with the terran econ, but of course it's always going to be more ideal to favor drones earlier.

On October 19 2010 12:03 dave333 wrote:
^Bling roaches muta.

I find this to be the most effective, as if you can kill rines with blings, then roaches+mutas stomp thors because the mutas DESTROY the thor DPS vs. roaches. Obviously any bling kills on scvs help too, and infestors can help a lot too.

On October 19 2010 17:55 Metaspace wrote:

Sounds a bit heavy on gas?

On October 20 2010 13:38 FLuE wrote:
Just had 2 quick questions I wanted to get people's opinions on. I'm guessing it has been answered in the thread somewhere possibly but didn't see it.

1 - When you FE how many drones do you transfer? I've been doing anywhere from 4-8, didn't know if there was an optimal number that people have found is the best to transfer.

2 - When spreading creep, is it faster to spread the creep to wait for the creep to get as far as possible then drop another tumor, or just drop as many tumors as quick as you can even if it isn't the furthest? This is assuming you don't have overlords out ahead of the tumors helping faster spread.

Thanks!

On October 20 2010 13:57 MrBitter wrote:


It is. But its pretty ridiculously strong. (If you download the MLG reps, you can see Idra doing this a few times)

Start out with muta/roach off 2 base, and add banes when you secure your 3rd. Stopping mech is hard, but I think this is one of the better ways to do it.



1- Transfer half your drones.

2- Spreading tumors as fast as you can when you have the APM to spare is what I suggest. Once you hit lair you can add ovie-poop to speed up the spread even more.

On October 21 2010 00:15 Selkie wrote:
Hey, Terran player here looking for some information:

Quite often, TvZ, I'll end up getting thors, as my opponent is getting mutas, etc etc. bioball with thor backup, my opponent is using muta-baneling, I lose hard to it, I get more thors. Lots of thors. In response, my opponent gets ultralisks. Upon scouting this, I get the 250MM cannon to deal with ultralisks. As a zerg player, what would you do to stop a large number of thors w/ 250 backed up by a small number of bio + 4-5 SCV's, assuming you have the full tech tree- broodlords? Mass mutas? I'm wondering what I'll be seeing next out of zerg, as I've never had a game last longer than that. (One player got broodlords, but too few too late- 1 thor+1SCV will deal easily with 1 brood, especially with thors out ranging the broods.)

To chump: being a terran at that level, loving that push, I cry when I encounter 3-4 spine crawlers, and generally say time to go home at that point. As OP said, he'd prefer only high level zerg, and so what I said may very well be completely incorrect further up.