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ZealousD
United States13 Posts
I think it'd be best if you did team games. | ||
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mcbrite
Germany229 Posts
On September 13 2010 09:54 Bumblebees wrote: Green tea = tremors so bad I can't play (I do drink it when I get sleep attacks though). Rockstar = hospital. (last 2 times I tried it I ended up staying until I stopped randomly having syncopal episodes) I am trying to get on provigil though. It seems to be a viable option. I am pretty glad to see there's other people who manage OK with lower APM though. That makes me hopeful to make it into at least mid-diamond one day. Buy and try something called GABA... seriously... Research and buy it via Google... I'd be REALLY surprised if that didn't help you at least a bit... | ||
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0c3LoT
Canada162 Posts
Go look up some advanced breathing techniques, they might help you out a little bit. | ||
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Bumblebees
United States328 Posts
On September 14 2010 07:40 mcbrite wrote: Buy and try something called GABA... seriously... Research and buy it via Google... I'd be REALLY surprised if that didn't help you at least a bit... I've took 2 GABA analogues (pregabilin aka lyrica and gabapentin aka neurontin) and they are pretty bad. You feel like you're stoned to hell 24/7, and your memory is pretty much shot. When I reached peak dosage on pregabalin, I couldn't even walk. Stuff is not cool, and might I add it's very addictive at therapeutic doses. Despite hating how I felt on it, I still get urges to take it months later. Thank you for the suggestion though  | ||
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Bumblebees
United States328 Posts
On September 13 2010 23:31 kme wrote: If you play zerg, you should try to do everything to make it easier and require lower APM. Let's see, the biggest offenders are obviously spawn larvae and creep tumor. If you think about it, without those zerg is probably the easiest race as everything is built from the same building, and most of your units don' t have any special abilities and can be just a-moved. Getting rid of creep tumors is not that difficult. It will hurt you, but not severely. Spawn larvae is more difficult tough. My suggestion is to only use it on the beginning and later just put more hatcheries. You also need to work on your hotkeys. Don't just randomly assign them during a game, you have to plan them before. Use all your hatcheries on 4 for example, and you can have 123 for your army. Also you should simply not build units that require a lot of attention or micro (mutalisk, infestor). The best strategy for you will most likely be sitting in your base and macroing carefully and at some time doing a timing attack. This playstyle is actually very strong as many people screw their macro even in diamond. As soon as you move to attack, put down like 2 more hatcheries so you can keep macroing easily with just using one hotkey. It will be less efficient than using queens but it may just be more efficient for you. By playing like this, you will usually have to outsmart your opponent. Try to get as much advantage as possible from correct army composition and tech switching. Also a-moving 10 lings on their expansion and then forgetting about them requires basically no APM but if timed correctly can win you the game. This (along with the lower mouse sensitivity suggestion) has helped me a lot so far. I played a few games focusing almost purely on 'keyboard centric' macro. Hotkeying all my buildings and queens, and box attacking with units. I feel much more confident and much less overwhelmed now. In the few games I've played, I've also focused on playing "slower" and subsequently I feel like I'm getting more done. I've had much fewer misclicks, which means redoing things, missing fewer injects and I actually end up with time to scout! WOO! | ||
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TogTogTogTog
Australia2 Posts
One was to buy a wrist band thing, the kind you might see some athletes sporting... I'm sure there's better ones for PC use but anyway. The elastic in the glove helped dampen the shakes and kept everything a lot straighter and smoother. He also learnt how to move with his forearm and not his wrist. By moving like this it didn't require his wrist to move at all, everything was done by moving his forearm and keeping the wrist as still as possible. This also allowed him to increase the resistance in his glove to dampen the shakes more as he didn't require the flexibility in the wrist. With the forearm you can get just as much movement with a wrist and with the same speed, it just requires a small mental adjustment. The downside is your arm will get very tired after a couple of games. The upside? You will build muscle (  ) and you stated you don't play a lot of games, so its not really a huge downside :DSecondly: Turn off "Enhance Pointer Precision" (EPP) if you have it on. Waste of time imo. Thirdly: I don't know how much this might help you... But try something like http://www.softpedia.com/progDownload/MouseCage-Download-28569.html Its a piece of software thats designed to reduce the mouse shakes. I don't know how well, or even if it will work with SC2 but hey, worth a shot! :D | ||
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CrimsonWall
United States27 Posts
My APM is around 30 and I top out at 45ish. I notice in early game I'm fine but around mid-game there is too much going on. I was just going to practice against Medium A.I. but I'd rather play against a human opponent. If you (or anyone else reading this thread) would like a practice partner, I'm CrimsonWall # 407 on the US servers. I work all day so I'm only available after 5pm EST and on the weekends. If we do play I'm no where platinum league so you can easily roll me LOL. I'm a Zerg player too so I'd be willing to chat and trade tips and strategies. P.S. I don't think you should worry that Zerg might require higher APM. Just play the race you love and have fun! | ||
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Vega08
United States17 Posts
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shiNe.
Canada120 Posts
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KRSTWO
United States3 Posts
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Arcanne
United States1519 Posts
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leser
Croatia239 Posts
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Zeroes
United States1102 Posts
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ZealousD
United States13 Posts
On September 14 2010 16:59 Arcanne wrote: I'm 1500 Diamond w/ ~80 apm Again, this guy is around 30 apm. There's a huge, huge difference between 30 and 80 apm. Yes, we know that SC2 isn't like SC1. We know that you can become pro with <150 apm. WhiteRa hovers just over 100 apm IIRC. But 30 apm is slooooooooow. There's no way you can survive in mid to high diamond with only 30 apm unless you're executing some sort of perfectly immaculate 1 base strategy that has a perfectly tuned individual build order that's optimized for each individual ladder map. | ||
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Bumblebees
United States328 Posts
On September 14 2010 16:59 Arcanne wrote: I'm 1500 Diamond w/ ~80 apm What race do you play, and would you be willing to share replays? I'm really curious to see what "lower apm" looks like in action. It's really difficult to find replays of such stuff. | ||
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Arcanne
United States1519 Posts
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Jzerg
84 Posts
On September 14 2010 09:23 Bumblebees wrote: I've took 2 GABA analogues (pregabilin aka lyrica and gabapentin aka neurontin) and they are pretty bad. You feel like you're stoned to hell 24/7, and your memory is pretty much shot. When I reached peak dosage on pregabalin, I couldn't even walk. Stuff is not cool, and might I add it's very addictive at therapeutic doses. Despite hating how I felt on it, I still get urges to take it months later. Thank you for the suggestion though Have you tried a different kind of CNS stimulant besides caffeine? Caffeine is really a terrible representative of stimulants, it works in a different manner than most other ones. I take Vyvanse myself for ADHD, and I've read up on patients with your condition taking Vyvanse. Vyvanse will keep your blood pressure up for sure, keep away any brain fog, and certainly give you a memory boost. (And again, it doesn't work like caffeine). | ||
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TrogdorBurninate
United States104 Posts
http://www.ftwins.com/ftwins-pro-strategy/starcraft-2-confessions-of-an-apm-spammer/ | ||
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EriktheGuy
Canada132 Posts
Good luck. | ||
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ionize
Ireland399 Posts
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